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Author Topic: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?  (Read 1935 times)

GoblinCookie

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Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« on: November 07, 2014, 02:01:14 pm »

One of my dogs has finally expired from her wounds.  I set the stockpile right next to the butcher's shop to accept corpses but when I tell the dwarves to butcher an animal there, they keep complaining about there not being a nearby  unrotten butcherable animal.

The dog in question is a tame animal that was unowned and died of wound sustained in a fight with troglodytes (I have the fortune/misfortune of shallow caverns). 

I really want the bones and I do not wish to play until I sorted this out because otherwise the dog will rot.
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:07:11 pm by GoblinCookie »
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2014, 02:24:46 pm »

One of my dogs has finally expired from her wounds.  I set the stockpile right next to the butcher's shop to accept corpses but when I tell the dwarves to butcher an animal there, they keep complaining about there not being a nearby  unrotten butcherable animal.

The dog in question is a tame animal that was unowned and died of wound sustained in a fight with troglodytes (I have the fortune/misfortune of shallow caverns). 

I really want the bones and I do not wish to play until I sorted this out because otherwise the dog will rot.
I think they will only be butchered if they are slaughtered.
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2014, 02:27:33 pm »

tame animals need to be assigned for butchery (slaughter, that is) while alive. If they die of anything before they get led to be slaughtered, it won't work
« Last Edit: November 07, 2014, 02:31:15 pm by Garath »
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2014, 02:34:12 pm »

tame animals need to be assigned for butchery (slaughter, that is) while alive. If they die of anything before they get led to be slaughtered, it won't work

There is no way you can assign dead tame animals to be slaughtered then?
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2014, 02:39:35 pm »

nope. I think if it gets raised by a necromancer and then killed again (before it rots), it can be butchered
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2014, 02:47:51 pm »

nope. I think if it gets raised by a necromancer and then killed again (before it rots), it can be butchered

I will just have to dump it then.  No plans about inviting necromancers over because I am led to believe that they are among the most lethal enemies that the game has to offer.  It is silly that you cannot butcher tame animals that die and do not have owners but lots of things are silly.
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2014, 02:54:54 pm »

yup, kinda silly. But hey, the game is pretty much in pre-alpha (0.4, not even version 1 yet) and of all the issues, silly things and plain bugs, this is one of the least problematic ones. Unless you try to explode a tame elephant for more leather
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2014, 03:07:42 pm »

yup, kinda silly. But hey, the game is pretty much in pre-alpha (0.4, not even version 1 yet) and of all the issues, silly things and plain bugs, this is one of the least problematic ones. Unless you try to explode a tame elephant for more leather

Leather and bones, leather and bones; you can forget about the meat because dwarves can live without it.   ;D ;D

Basically leather and bones makes armour.  I have not so far run into any weapons-grade metal, only a ton of gold which attracts goblins I've heard. 

It is rather problematic because the amount of leather and bones I get has a definite affect on whether I beat the goblins that said gold supply will attract.  Once I have the gold I can hopefull buy weapons-grade metal with gold items, but that requires me to survive until the second autumn. 
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2014, 05:47:06 pm »

yup, kinda silly. But hey, the game is pretty much in pre-alpha (0.4, not even version 1 yet) and of all the issues, silly things and plain bugs, this is one of the least problematic ones. Unless you try to explode a tame elephant for more leather

Leather and bones, leather and bones; you can forget about the meat because dwarves can live without it.   ;D ;D

Basically leather and bones makes armour.  I have not so far run into any weapons-grade metal, only a ton of gold which attracts goblins I've heard. 

It is rather problematic because the amount of leather and bones I get has a definite affect on whether I beat the goblins that said gold supply will attract.  Once I have the gold I can hopefull buy weapons-grade metal with gold items, but that requires me to survive until the second autumn.
If you're very lucky, you'll get a gold warhammer/mace from a mood!
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2014, 06:14:25 pm »

If you're very lucky, you'll get a gold warhammer/mace from a mood!

It is actually possible for people to create weaponry through moods out of materials that cannot be used to make said items?

Someone wanted me to give them shining bars of metal in addition to the bone from the slaughtered donkey I had to slaughter in order to give them it.  I had hoped it was bone OR metal, turns out it was actually both.  As I struggled to get everything set up to smelt gold for him, he goes beserk and ends up having to be strangled. 

Thus ended Asob Goldenvipers.  My present plans are to some trade gold bars to the elves if they arrive and have anything of value and by Autumn have created a stack of gem-studden, hungry head bone decorated, scepters and crowns out of gold because that is what is in demand.  I 'told' them I wanted metal-grade metal and hopefully I can buy the whole stack of metal bars for said items. 

Of I could make do selling legendery meals instead. Or wooden wheelbarrows like last time.  :) :)
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2014, 07:50:46 pm »

I tend to [q]-[a]-[/b]utcher a dead animal on my refuse stockpile at least once a year. Certain creatures can be butchered once they've died, I don't micromanage this aspect, instead just let the butchers do their thing with what's possible. Then do some bone/shell/horn/tooth carving and tanning, likewise taking advantage of what's possible, before atom smash what ever is left over (cartilage, dog corpses, etc).
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2014, 08:41:48 pm »

A dog that died in defending the fort shouldnt be eaten.
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2014, 08:45:18 pm »

As far as I know, if dwarves don't butcher it, they don't.
Because the job is automated by default, unless you changed your workshop order.
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2014, 01:52:31 pm »

A dog that died in defending the fort shouldnt be eaten.

A dog happy to die defending the fort in life should be happy to defend the fort with it's bones in death.  :)
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Re: Why can't I butcher a dog that died?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2014, 01:56:11 pm »

A dog that died in defending the fort shouldnt be eaten.

A dog happy to die defending the fort in life should be happy to defend the fort with it's bones in death.  :)

That's very logical, unfortunately, logic and DF don't always mix
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