Apologies for my lateness to the party, the notifications of people posting in this game stopped for some reason, plus I was barely on my computer yesterday because yesterday was really busy despite my school having a snow day for the first time in forever. Thankfully, you guys seem to be having a promising start, with a few problems.
This is my IC voice. Anything I say in this can be trusted 100%. However I will use this only to discuss game mechanics and general mafia stuff. My own opinion on things like scumhunting, things I find suspicious, as well as anything I say that doesn't have to do with game mechanics and general mafia stuff will not be in IC voice. That does not mean that you can not trust my words outside my IC voice, it just means that those statements are made by me as an IC, not me as a player.
An important thing to keep in mind, and something many of you seem to be realize already, is that I have two goals. The first is to improve your play, while the second is to play to my win condition. It is possible for an IC to have a scum alignment. It is also possible for both ICs to be the scum team.Now that I've said all that, on to dealing with people's posts.
Look, I have to go for No lynch here, I really don't feel confident enough in voting for anyone on the first day.
Look, I have to go for No lynch here, I really don't feel confident enough in voting for anyone on the first day.
I have to agree at this point. Although if our resident lurkers (namely RangerCado and Persus13) don't show their faces soon, my position may change. For now, though, I'm going to vote No Lynch.
When you posted, you still had 48 hours to find scum. Instead of voting for No Lynch (which is one of the worst town decisions, because it gives power to the scum), you two could be asking questions, looking for strange occurances in previous posts, or voting for inactive people to get in here.
Scripten:So, looks like we have some new blood in here.
Execute/Dumbo.exe: How do you feel your play will differ this game from when you have a town role?
I'm not completely sure I understand this question. Are you implying that Execute has a scum role?
Persus13: Heyo, any thoughts so far?
You seem pretty experienced.
Scintellant seems like he understands a little how to play like town, but hasn't mastered it. He also is copying people, which is a bit odd.
Krusader seems to understand how the game is played pretty well.
Shamrock is being really aggressive, which is something a lot of people do, especially when starting out, but isn't actually necessary.
Execute is flailing a lot.
SBC, Deus Asmoth and Ranger Cado need to post more before I can get a fix on them.
Scintellant:Persus13: What basic survival tips would you give to a new player like me?
Be active enough and post well enough to not be a lynch target, but don't be town-like enough to be the target of a night kill. Alternatively, don't be an IC but play well as town, as ICs are usually the first to get NKed. Why is the focus of this question on survival as opposed to finding scum?
However, if I made a slip up and implied I was JKer, thus painting a big target on myself, I'd pick myself to protect (assuming that I didn't also block myself, making a paradox ).
Jailkeepers can't protect themselves.Scintillant:
While you're here, why do you seem to be basically parroting what I said? While you have thrown the first vote, your accusation is the basically same as mine. Yours is shorter and packs more of a punch, while it is more effective it left me wondering. Did you find this suspicious or are you just following on from what I said?
I did independently arrive at this conclusion, I just had the misfortune of posting it after you. Great minds think alike, I guess
the mafia are probably going to hide in the lurkers like usual.
Couldn't we just start lynching lurkers, though to counter this?
You posted your question 20 minutes after Shamrock posted his. How did you miss Shamrock's question?
Lynching lurkers is something I only feel should be done in the absence of scum targets.
Also, there is a difference between Lurking and not being able to post. Lurking is being able to post but not doing so. However that definition is a bit subjective, because not being able to post can range from not being able to access your computer to being pre-occupied with another Bay12 game. Also, not all scum are lurkers, scum tend to be either fairly active and trying to appear to be scumhunting, or lurking, as do town.
Also, I had a slight hunch that you were scum at that point, again based on your lack of questioning, so I piggybacked off of Shamrock's argument since it seemed to hit the same points that I was thinking about.
And this wouldn't be the first time you've done this.
Un-Fos RangerCado, FoS Persus13
Here's a tip: Use your vote when you can. FOS in my opinion should only be used for someone you would like to vote but you want to keep your vote on someone else. A FOS is pretty useless otherwise, and makes you look like you want to attack me but don't have enough courage to vote me. So next time, vote me.
Krusader:Everyone: How much mafia experience do you have?
I've played Mafia on this board for a bit over a year now. I've been scum about 3-4 times, a serial killer once, and town for a bunch of other games.
Besides almost inevitable scum-win because BM, anyway.
It's not inevitable, I've definitely seen town win BMs before, so don't be so defeatist.
Comrade Shamrock:masked_krusader
Deus Asmoth
If you were mafia, who would you target?
Why are you asking that question? It seems like a way to set up a fall guy if scum decide to kill that person. Which could result in the basics of he suggested he might have been an inexperienced enough scum to post it and go through with it, which leads to his lynching but he could really be town.
As a general rule, it is considered rude to jump in on someone else's question, because it might change the answer that is given. Just FYI.
Also, it is entirely possible that this was Krusader's intent, however questions like this one are often asked in RVS by players of any alignment to get discussion going. Also, as Krusader responded, this type of scum plan is usually trumped by the realities of the situation
Out of curiousity, why do you seem really aggressive towards Krusader from the start?
Persus13: Heyo, any thoughts so far?
Is it regular for you to start asking questions about people's opinion so early? You have yet to really voice an opinion but already want another player to give you their thoughts.
This isn't unusual. ICs get these questions all the time. The fact that I'm an IC is something you seem to be ignoring in this post.
Scripten:
I did not mean to say your game is sub-optimal. It's just that you are playing in a mainly reactive manner. Very few questions seem to come from you. You provide well detailed answers and offer advice. But if we look back I think you have addressed two people in an inquiry without a prompt. These were both Persus and Blackcat, our absentee ICs. Then there is the spat we just had, which I provoked by basically insulting you (sorry about that).
You calling a player who had the first post of the game reactive? And the post had a question to Execute, so this post is incorrect about the number of questions he asked. In addition, I'd like to point that a lot of Mafia is reactive because you find scum through seeing other people's content and finding what's scummy about it.
Execute:Execute/Dumbo.exe
If it got down to MYLO, would you attempt to hang scum, or push for a no-lynch to get more info?
Well, first up I would like to know what MYLO means? Does it mean when if town lunches the wrong person the scum win or something?
You're correct. MyLo is an abbreviation of Mislynch and Lose. In this game, if we have 6 people then we would have MYLo. Although if we have a Jailkeeper then they can stop scum from winning.Alright then, Unvote No-Lynch.
There, you happy now? The only person I see as slightly leaning towards getting my vote and that's Persus13.
Mostly because all the better players are dog piling (Massive Over exaggeration) him.
Hmmm.
Voting someone because other players are is something that will get you lynched. Vote someone because you find something they said odd, or you agree with another player's case on them.
Vote Execute. Trying to get a no lynch on day 1 can only be bad for the town, and it's the most suspicious play I've seen so far.
I went for No Lynch because I didn't know who could have really been showing any scummy behavior, I just don't have an eye for that kind of stuff.
Oh, on that note, I'm going to have to request a replacement, and yes I realise how much of a dick move this is, doing so on the first day, but I just feel like crap from this game already and I think I would just informally leave anyway.
If you want to request replacement, use
bold text. Secondly, don't be discouraged by the fact people are attacking you for a mistake you made. This type of thing happens often in beginner games, and the point of these games is to help you avoid that type of thing. If you don't feel you enjoy Mafia, feel free to request a replacement, but I would encourage you to stay and play if you feel able. It's not a dick move to request a replacement if you don't feel well because of a game.