Scripten: If you were mafia, how would you approach this game? If you were town?
If I was scum(mafia), I'd ask others how they play and what they look out for. And not do those things. 
Scripten: I'm not sure if this actually answers the mafia part of the question. Your basically restating what Scintillant is actually doing. I'd like to know if this is a serious answer, or goofing around. And if it IS goofing around, did you plan to answer this?
And what mistakes do you believe will be most prominately be made by the new players?
Everyone: How much mafia experience do you have?
Krusader: ...Not really a lot in this at all, but theres always going to be some oddness in BMs. Not suspicious if you get more out later and are just testing the waters. To answer this though, I've been around on and off awhile. First thing I did once I joined the forum WAS sign up for a couple games. Magic Mafia remains my favorite game.
What would be your criteria for targetting people as the jailer?
Why did you choose to vote me and why do you expect that you have a lower survival chance as a newbie?
I've read a few of the mafia games here and saw your name come up a few times, so I figured you might be as good a place to start as any. As for the survival chance, I'm worried that I'll make some noob mistake in questioning someone and that it'll get misinterpreted as a scum tell, getting me lynched.
Scintillant: Don't worry about lynching my friend. Unless your a power role, you shouldn't worry and just do your job. And even THEN you still shouldn't get caught up defending yourself if people are accusing you. Always remember to keep hunting.
Scint: What thought process would you have if you were the JKer?
If there was a person who implied that they were a town cop, then I would protect them, as they would the most likely target for a night kill. Otherwise, I'd probably pick a random person that I suspect town so that scum have a chance of trying and failing to NK a protected person. However, if I made a slip up and implied I was JKer, thus painting a big target on myself, I'd pick myself to protect (assuming that I didn't also block myself, making a paradox 
).
Even though this would prevent them from investigating due to being thrown in jail?
As mafia, would your goal be to eliminate the ICs first, or the townie who appears to be doing the most head way? Would this desicion change if you were the only mafia player assuming we lynched a scum day 1?
Everyone: How much mafia experience do you have?
Never played before myself, so we'll see how it goes.
Scintillant, you seem very concerned about being seen as scum very early on in the game. That's probably not suspicious by itself I guess, but it's the only thing worthy of note so far from my point of view.
Deus: This is a sad truth of most of what the first 24 hours will be like until we all get into the mindset of not caring about your own death to further the towns interests.
What would be your preffered role? (Town, mafia, doesn't matter)
Scint: What thought process would you have if you were the JKer?
Hm.
Unvote Execute/Dumbo.exe
Vote Superblackcat
What sort of alignment-indicative information were you hoping to glean from an answer to that question?
Scripten: This seems a rather odd vote change. Considering that most BMs and actual games are riddled with questions like this on whether you would do this as this role, or this as that role. Not only that, but this is still the RVS stage, and though that often means things like this don't hold MUCH clout, its still odd coming from an IC with that as your question.
RangerCado: What do you feel will be the biggest obstacle to the town in this game?
Scintillant: Likely trying to figure out the scum tells from the newbie mistakes. We all make them, they will be plentiful especially day 1, and we're not likely to get much information until we lynch today and get information from the nights activities as most games often require.
As far as dying at night, consider it a compliment from the scum team; saying that you're dangerous enough for them to need you eliminated.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to recall a game involving you (I don't think you were scum in it) in which the scum picked their targets on whether or not their deaths would provide much to speculate on. They picked on the quiet and those without many suspicions.
Comrade: Every game is different. Sometimes, that strategy works, sometimes it doesn't. Everything will depend on the game, so keep that in mind.
RangerCado:
Which would you prefer to be. A townie or mafia? Why?
I prefer Mafia for being able to know a good portion of whats going bump in the night, and I like to be against the odds in a lot of games when it comes to numbers. A bit of a pride thing unfortunately, but I like being faced with many opponents and coming out on top.
I think I'll ask the same question of you. Town or mafia?
Scripten
How do you see this game going? Besides almost inevitable scum-win because BM, anyway.
Krusader: Hey! No defeatist attitude! Can't hunt if you think your gonna lose.
masked_krusader
Deus Asmoth
If you were mafia, who would you target?
Why are you asking that question? It seems like a way to set up a fall guy if scum decide to kill that person. Which could result in the basics of he suggested he might have been an inexperienced enough scum to post it and go through with it, which leads to his lynching but he could really be town.
Comrade: Alright, this question stinks. Who you would target is a common question for everything from kills to investigations. I would like to ask why you think this is suspicious as the reasons you've posted above can be applied to ALL night actions really.
Unvote. Vote masked_krusader.
Your question here
Deus Asmoth
If you were mafia, who would you target?
seems scummy. It feels like a very good escape method if you were mafia. This way, you can safely NK whoever he says and then pin it on him. What was your reasoning behind this question?
Scintillant: I call WIFOM on that answer. Comrade's may have also been WIFOM, but this is much more obvious to me as a heavy IF question.
Execute/Dumbo.exe:
Execute/Dumbo.exe: How do you feel your play will differ this game from when you have a town role?
Quite a lot, I would suspect, for one thing, I won't have to plan out my posts quite so much.
Could you explain exactly what you mean by this? Why would posts require less planning as scum vs. town?
Dumbo: Actually, good catch here. If your playing scum right, you should be acting just like any other Townie in most respects. You'll have to do quite a bit of planning as both, so I'll repeat Scintillant's question here as to why.
Okay, just woke up here (time zones) Execute/Dumbo.exe:
Execute/Dumbo.exe: How do you feel your play will differ this game from when you have a town role?
Quite a lot, I would suspect, for one thing, I won't have to plan out my posts quite so much.
Could you explain exactly what you mean by this? Why would posts require less planning as scum vs. town?
Hold on, what?
Rereading here...
Ah, I see.
Sorry, that was a badly worded post there, what I meant to say was that as scum it takes a lot of planning while as town I don't need to worry so much as I can actually go on my actual cases without having to plan for an hour every post.
I was confused because the only part of mafia I participated in before this was as scum so I assumed you were talking about that instance compared to as if I was town instead.
...Acceptable... Your off the hook for now.
What do you think you would prefer, Doctor or Jailer? Why?
RangerCado
How would you deal with lurkers?
Krusader: The age old philosophy of 'Lynch all Lurkers' comes to mind with this. If they're making promises of posts and not delivering, then they should be lynched for not actually doing anything and being a dead end for the Town. This is different if they just disappear entirely and need to be replaced. If THAT occurs, then it becomes a completely neutral read for me.
Execute/Dumbo.exe
If it got down to MYLO, would you attempt to hang scum, or push for a no-lynch to get more info?
Well, first up I would like to know what MYLO means? Does it mean when if town lunches the wrong person the scum win or something?
Dumbo: The OP contains all terms and things you should know. Like what WIFOM means if anyone reading my now massive post doesn't understand.
masked_krusader:
But if there is a counterclaim it means that someone is definitely a liar.
Comrade: There is a very simple solution to counterclaims that makes it easy to figure out. Unless its MYLO or LYLO, then we just lynch one and if the counter claim was a false claim, we lynch the other and thereby lower the mafia numbers in the end. Of course this doesn't work very well AT MYLO and LYLO, but then its a different situation and would have to be dealt with on a case by case basis.
Also, why no follow up question here? You seem to just be stating a single hole you've found but not adding a question with it. Any reason behind this?
RangerCado: Same goes for you, all you've said is that you'll reply "before the end of the day". Get out here and contribute to the scumhunt, or at the very least, answer the questions we've asked you. At this point, your lack of response is getting suspicious.
Scintillant: By the end of the day, I mean the RL day as I had school immediately after that post, then had to do some home work and eat dinner, and finally got to doing this which has now taken almost an hour and I'm not yet done with it. Patience, I'm not known for disappearing like that. I WILL get atleast 1-3 posts out each RL day as I normally do... though I find it odd you didn't FOS Persus as well as at this point he has been gone now longer than I.
Persus: Get in here please!
Look, I have to go for No lynch here, I really don't feel confident enough in voting for anyone on the first day.
Dumbo: BAD! As annoying as day 1 'random' lynches are, they do give us valuable information. And besides, you have 48 HOURS left to continue hunting, give or take as of the time of that post. Theres plenty of hunting to do, and no reason to call for a no lynch like this. I hesitate to call this a scum tell though having A: done this myself in the bygone past, and B: know that no good Scum IC would let this slide. WIFOM is prevalent in how to look at this for me.
Look, I have to go for No lynch here, I really don't feel confident enough in voting for anyone on the first day.
I have to agree at this point. Although if our resident lurkers (namely RangerCado and Persus13) don't show their faces soon, my position may change. For now, though, I'm going to vote No Lynch.
Scintillant: ...No point arguing as I did plan to have this up over 3 hours ago at this point. RL comes first though, remember that. And BAD! NO no lynches for you 2! We have tons of time left in the day. -_-
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