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VariosCasus

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The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« on: November 05, 2014, 01:03:53 pm »

    So I gen'd a pocket world for 300 hundred years in 40.14 (found the perfect 4x4 embark with volcano, brook, flux, and iron) and hit embark when the game tells me I've chosen a Civ that is dead or dying and some noble positions may be filled early. No biggie I can deal with that.

    I start planning for the fact that after the two hard coded migration waves I probably won't get more, this was I thought confirmed when the caravan arrived with no liaison and my spear dwarf was promoted to king. But just half way through the first winter I get a migration wave of 21 and I just noticed that almost all my dwarves have the thought "Feeling vengeful after joining an existing conflict". 

    Is it possible that the migrants I just got were refuges from the goblin war that destroyed their civilization and have spread word to the rest of my dwarves? The only combat related thing that's happened is that buzzard attacked a dwarf, missed, and promptly flew away like an asshole.

 Even after 6 years or so of playing this game and it still blows my brain into billions of pieces, I tip my hat to you Toady you magnificent bastard. 
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nekoexmachina

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Re: The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2014, 01:11:27 pm »

I double that five times.
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Whenever i read the "doesn't care about anything anymore" line, i instantly imagine a dwarf, sitting alone on a swing set. Just slowly rocking back and forth, somberly staring at the ground, and stopping every once in a while to sigh.
It's mildly depressing.

Koremu

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Re: The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2014, 01:34:20 pm »

    So I gen'd a pocket world for 300 hundred years in 40.14 (found the perfect 4x4 embark with volcano, brook, flux, and iron)

Seed?
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It's a dwarf.  Their natural habitat is "trapped on the wrong side of a wall".

Flinging children halfway across the map to land in magma is good, wholesome fun, but extramarital reproduction?  Why, that's just unseemly!

neblime

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Re: The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2014, 03:46:07 pm »

a buzzard flying in and attacking a dwarf CAN trigger everyone to have vengeful thoughts, it's a bit broken right now.  afaik nothing long term like past wars gives those thoughts
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Swonnrr

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Re: The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2014, 04:08:41 pm »

a buzzard flying in and attacking a dwarf CAN trigger everyone to have vengeful thoughts, it's a bit broken right now.  afaik nothing long term like past wars gives those thoughts

This. Any combat (in the DF definition of the term: red "C" notification), is considered on the same level.
Maybe there is a distinction between non-lethal, lethal and no mercy, but if I remember correct in fortress mode all combat is "no mercy". That or my frail, "peace loving" sniper is a hugging psychopath.

Then there is additional triggers for minor wound, major wound and death (and viewing a friend or ennemy suffering those), but yeah. A single kea flying a little too close from your meeting hall can make all dwarves go into a kea-hating spree.

Wich is... not that irrealistic, and a nice touch.

Dwarves in general are supposed to be quick to judge and hold on grievances, after all.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2014, 04:13:08 pm by Swonnrr »
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Re: The thought rewrite has offically blown my mind
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2014, 08:30:00 pm »

I was JUST about to make a thread about this. Glad I am not the only one.
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