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[Knit tie]

Anyway, Owlbread, looks like none of the resident Russians are homophobic after all.

Yeeeees...

[Comrade P.]

I understand there is talk of some kind of loan owed to Russia by Ukraine that Russia is demanding they pay early?

Might be gas bills. Gasprom changed the deal, now payment for next months' gas supply goes before actual gas is transferred. That was done because Ukraine still owes money for last year. Or are you referring to something else?

[Sergarr]

Like how Russian treatment of gays causes more interest than Russian terrorism.
*yawns*

nobody cares about deaths of non-"first world"-people, news at 11

just look at the difference in media reaction to 11 people dying in France and 2000+ people dying in Nigeria

[Knit tie]

Like how Russian treatment of gays causes more interest than Russian terrorism.
*yawns*

nobody cares about deaths of non-"first world"-people, news at 11

just look at the difference in media reaction to 11 people dying in France and 2000+ people dying in Nigeria

Or 50 people dying in Yemen.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

UR, why does your signature, which apparently come from a "Ukrainian Nationalist Prayer" mention Caucasian storms? Like, what the link between Caucasian storms and Ukraine?

In late 19th\early 20th century when modern Ukrainian nationalism formed ethnic Ukrainian lands went right to outskirts of Caucasus. To be more precise many Ukrainians settled those lands after Cherkessians and others were expelled away. Naturally that lands were included in a national state Ukrainian nationalists dreamed to form.

If Poles had from Sea to Sea, we had from Mountains to Mountains

[Arx]

just look at the difference in media reaction to 11 people dying in France and 2000+ people dying in Nigeria

There's much more Boko Haram coverage here. Take that as you will, I guess.

[Knit tie]

Arx, what place are you talking about?

[Sergarr]

Arx, what place are you talking about?

South Africa.

[Knit tie]

Arx, what place are you talking about?

South Africa.

I don't think it surprising, then, Arx, that your country cares about other Africans much more than Europe does.

[Helgoland]

Well, Paris is four or five hours away from me by car, and probably one or two by plane - Nigeria on the other hand is pretty far away. Yess, I'll care more about people being shot near me, because I could've been one of them.

[Arx]

It was mostly an observation that geography seems to come into it as much as development levels, since SA's in some weird developed/not-developed limbo. It could be that Europe doesn't care about the third world, or that it doesn't care about something on a separate continent.

Although Nigeria is almost equidistant from France and South Africa...

Edit: Helgo, you're closer to Baga than I am, as the crow flies.

[misko27]

Can't say for sure, but I've found that the reverse is also true, and people outside of the West care about their own affairs as much as the West cares about the West. Reminds me of that one New York Times article I read about Google trying to invest in public transport in Kenya featured a bus driver who named his bus "Hitler" (and painted it on his windshield, and sewed into the seats) because it was a funny name and kids called him that growing up (because he was a tough guy). Link here for the curious.

[Comrade P.]

Well, Paris is four or five hours away from me by car, and probably one or two by plane - Nigeria on the other hand is pretty far away.

In Russia, if you drive four or five hours straight out of town, you end up being 4-5 hours of driving away from civilization.

[Knit tie]

By the way, Russia is commonly regarded by most Russians to be composed of two parts: Moskow and everything else. Civilisation is located mostly in Moskow.

[Sergarr]

By "most Russians" you mean "~10% of Russians that live in Moscow", right?

Because I'm sure people from St. Petersburg, or from South Novgorod would not agree with you.