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Default Weapon out of Multiple
« on: November 01, 2014, 03:04:07 am »

Hi all,
I know that dwarves will not switch weapons as the combat dictates (firing crossbows, then switching to melee weapon when engaged in CQC, then back again if they survive, for example), so then which weapon will they default to if they have multiple assigned? Is it the one at the top of the list? I ask because for the sake of some DF/40k crossover RP, I want my dorfs to have a crossbow and a knife on them at the same time, but mainly use their crossbows, resorting to knives if they've dropped their crossbows or unable to use them for any reason.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 03:48:16 am »

You could mod crossbows to have bayonets on them, as a quick stopgap solution.
(change their blunt attack to a knife-equivalent one)
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 05:55:29 am »

I already have, but I want to kit out all my Guardsmen with another knife.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 06:13:26 am »

I think that lies in the Dwarf AI which is not moddable via the raws.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 07:13:06 am »

I'll try it out, and it will hopefully lead to some Fun.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 01:45:02 pm »

aren't dwarves able to use crossbows to bash foes with?  They use the hammer skill.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 03:49:53 pm »

He already said he made that bash to a knife. The bash attack is pretty useless out of crossbows, unless you have an artifact platinum crossbow.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 08:07:26 pm »

This is not entirely true.  You can equip ranged dwarves with crossbows and melee weapons...and even a shield.  Then, in melee, they will most definitely use their melee weapon, in addition to their crossbow as a hammer.  I'm not sure what the percentages are or what preferences your dwarf will use to decide which weapon to use...but it definitely works.

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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2014, 03:03:45 am »

This is not entirely true.  You can equip ranged dwarves with crossbows and melee weapons...and even a shield.  Then, in melee, they will most definitely use their melee weapon, in addition to their crossbow as a hammer.  I'm not sure what the percentages are or what preferences your dwarf will use to decide which weapon to use...but it definitely works.

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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 04:48:58 am »

Maybe equipping edged weapons on your marksdwarves would work the most reliably? Edged attacks are preferred over blunt ones, so they should (mostly) use the shortswords or spears given to them.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 04:55:09 am »

Maybe equipping edged weapons on your marksdwarves would work the most reliably? Edged attacks are preferred over blunt ones, so they should (mostly) use the shortswords or spears given to them.
How do we know edged are preferred?
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 04:56:41 am »

I'm pretty sure that it's explicitly stated somewhere that edged attacks are preferred by the combat AI so you don't get a lot of slapping and such with swords.
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Re: Default Weapon out of Multiple
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 05:01:57 am »

Nice. Now I just have to crosstrain them in Knife User. Just in case, though, I will put crossbows on top of knives in the equipment screen.
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