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[evillevi]

I'm popping here cause quite frankly you deserve a lot of respect for playing this game while blind.

And well you have my mad respects man.

[LordPorkins]

I'm popping here cause quite frankly you deserve a lot of respect for playing this game while blind.

And well you have my mad respects man.

That and his forts are better than any of mine. and i can see. Which demonstrates a superb amount of Stubborness and Intelligence on his part

[zkline]

Hey, all,

I've been playing Cataclysm lately, which isn't DF, though does share some of the big "open world," aesthetic.

I'm dropping back in here to say that I'm still very much interested in  this game, though don't know if we're better off focusing on Adventure mode for now. Considering the original age of this thread, perhaps it's appropriate that I reappear on Easter.

I do hope some more programming work might be done on some of the accessibility ideas mentioned. I wish I had the coding talent myself.

[Heretic]

Glad to see u don't forget DF)
I wish community help you more

[zkline]

The curses-based mode on Linux is still my best shot at playing this game, as things stand. I wish that weren't the case, as the Linux screen reader comes with some pretty hefty limitations.

The biggest issues are getting a sense of what the map looks like, and being able to explore it. The DFHack plugins mentioned earlier in this thread do quite a bit to help with that, but it's still a somewhat odd experience. I really should re-download the game. I wish there were a way to get the terminal cursor to stay in a predictable spot, that would help a great deal for adventure mode, at least.

[Pvt. Pirate]

doesn't "mousecontrols" have stable cursor?

[zkline]

Possibly, but as a blind gamer a mouse is mostly useless for me. The cursor I'm talking about isn't the DF cursor at all, it's the cursor used to "draw," windows in terminal/text print mode. I think earlier posts in this thread went into a bit more detail about the distinction.

[lethosor]

I think I found a way to get the terminal cursor over the fortress mode cursor (k, q, etc.). I'm not sure about adventure mode, though. Is there a specific location you're thinking of?

[zkline]

I think I found a way to get the terminal cursor over the fortress mode cursor (k, q, etc.). I'm not sure about adventure mode, though. Is there a specific location you're thinking of?

I was wondering about having the terminal cursor over the player character, if possible. That makes most traditional roguelikes more or less playable by default. The flow would be something like, "move the terminal cursor over the PC at the end of processing every turn."

[zkline]

Just trying to keep this thread alive

I reinstalled DF on my Linux machine, and despite segmentation faults on startup two times out of three, I've managed to generate a world and create an adventurer. The most pressing problem right now involves the way my screen reader handles blinking characters. Every time the character blinks, it gets repeated, so I hear a constant stream of "U," "U," "u," when trying to get a feel for the map.

I can disable my program's reading of new text entirely, but that requires me to scan the screen manually every turn just in case a new message shows up. This is hardly ideal.

Unfortunately, I gather that there's no way to disable the blinking, even in text mode. I take comfort in the fact it seems kind of annoying visually too.

[Grand Sage]

Yes, the blinking can get quite annoying sometimes. I like the way Cataclysm handles stacked items a lot better. For those who dont know: in cataclysm, the background just indicates that there is more than one item, and you have to look manually to see it. However, cataclysm also has a "list of viewable objects/monsters" screen, which I imagine to be quite useful for you. unless cata is SDL-based too?

[zkline]

Cataclysm does have an SDL version, but also has a regular Curses/console-based port. It's far more playable for me than DF is at the moment. The ability to disable  blinking, and its handling of the terminal cursor, are big reasons for that.

[Grand Sage]

has anyone tried involving Toady into this? i imagine he would have an idea or two...

[zkline]

I'd love to get his perspective on this, if only to see if some relatively small changes could be made to the Linux console version. Those would go a long way to making the game more pleasant. The larger, or non-console changes, might be more of a community project, since I realize this is super specialized to begin with.

[Scoops Novel]

Future of the fortress blud