Mastahcheese [1] How often should one revise their opinions on someone? [2] Should a revision be drastic, and [3] should past opinions have a say in new opinions?
[1] As often as possible, whenever anything comes up that could alter it.
[2] Not neccassarily, no. It should be more "double checking to see what's changed", not just revising for the sake of revising.
[3] I think so, yeah. First impressions mean a lot.
What are your opinions on such things?
[1] At least once or twice an in-game day, but not so often that you are being wishy washy.
[2] Only if a flip makes it drastic.
[3] Yes.
So, not much different from yours.
Cheeetar Which is scummier: Lurking day 2, or not answering questions day 1?
This is a good question. Not answering questions is more a sign of actual inactivity or newbieness than any calculated move- it costs nothing to answer a question, and it's fairly easy to not incriminate yourself too much. I'd say lurking day 2 is more of a scumtell than not answering questions day 1.
This seems fair. I like this assessment.
Who do you feel you can read best right now? Who haven't you played with before and what do you plan on doing to get acquainted with their playstyle?
GayArchaea's first game was the one I ran, iirc, so I haven't played
with him, though I have seen him play. I don't remember playing with SBC, although I might have, and SBC was in my game too. I don't remember playing with Vector.
I feel like out of all the players in this game Varee is the easiest for me to read.
To get to know the players better, I plan on multiple interactions through RVS, and further questioning throughout the game.
Jack A T Would you lie as scum? As a third party?
flabort: If it would help me achieve my wincon, yes. Which of your 15 RVS questions do you think will gain you useful information? Why? Of what sort? Which ones do you think will not?
Flabort: I say roll randomly for who gets it. Causes Lols.
flabort: This. Also, I'm surprised you have such a specific order of expected effectiveness for your RVS questions. I'd like an explanation of that order when you can give one.
Yup, I was planning on that. Here:
Jack AT: More later, but the order of effectiveness I expect from my RVS questions:
1] Who wants a gift? I need to prep it ahead of time, during the day, so I can give it during night, so (new) role names!
2] Tiruin
3] SBC
4] Vector
5] Cheeetar
6] Mastah
7] 4mask
8] Persus
9] GA
10] Varee
11] Toaster
12] Jim
13] Shakerag
14] TDS
15] Jack AT
Orange: Very little information expected, these players tend to be able to hold a conversation on very little starting material.
Green: These questions I expect lots of information from, for the reason of I don't know these players
as well as I would like (Sorry, Tiruin, but yes you too) and want to study their reactions and play styles, especially how they perceive their own play styles.
The others: The amount of information I expect isn't much, but neither can I carry a conversation with these players very well, so I tried for questions that would create conversations.
Flabort:
Toaster: Thanks. Do you have a rolecop ability for secondary roles? If so, could you please use it on me and tell me what that condition is, because it's hidden from me.
Fairly rolefishy (and oddly targeted at me instead of anyone), so I'll answer vaguely by saying I won't be helping you with that.
mastahcheese has actioned Toaster.
I can confirm I got a gun. I can now daykill someone. Helpfully, I can target myself with this. So... two lynches today go go go?
With what Jim said, wow the second half of this seems really frightening now.
Fine, I'm fine with that. I figured if MC was trusting you with a gun, I could trust you with my information; I can accept that you maybe don't want to or maybe can't see my secondary role for me.
Flabort: It really depends on the player, but it’s easier to figure out people’s wincons from their posts than their abilities, barring outright statements or intentional hints. Granted, wincon discernment is also pretty hard.
I find this to be true. But what do you mean by it depends on the player? Are certain players easier to read in that way?
flabort:
Shakerag How many third parties do you expect there to be?
Hell if I know. More than one, fewer than sixteen?
Bluh bluh busy.
Well, you proved me wrong with that. (See answer to Jack above)
TheDarkStar What do you suspect these mandates are? Do you suspect that they will have any impact on your play?
Mandates are probably something about how nobles can direct what other people do (maybe they need to know the role or the ability name?).
OK. What do you think defines a Noble? I expect a cultist team.
I'll be a volunteer. I don't have a role suggestion yet.
Everyone: Are you a Shakerag? Some people claim that they are not one, so I want to see who is and who isn't. Is this too similar to rolefishing?
OK, I look forward to your suggestion.
Also, as far as I know, I'm not shakerag. My secondary role is just.... I can't be sure of anything.
But I don't care about milo or lylo.
I expect random bullshit to take me out before I get there. I also expect random bullshit out of my control to either make me win or lose.
As to why I'm asking about what everyone wants for christdorfmas, it's to see who's naughty or nice. But everyone is reluctant (so far) to give me any ideas, so I don't have a list to check once, let alone twice.
So, if somebody wants free stuff are they naughty and if they don't are they nice? What if they just want free stuff?
OK. So how was that a better question?
Seriously, though. If you don't feel that you have the degree of control that you do in a regular game, why don't you do something to make yourself feel in control? Be the one in charge of firing off the "random bullshit" and work on eliminating those you suspect to be capable of offing you; why give yourself up to the random flow instead of playing to win?
And no, what, you're afraid everything I have to offer is coal? I genuinely want to give somebody a free gift!
I don't intend to declare everyone who wants a gift naughty, nor everyone who doesn't nice. Obviously that's full of WIFOM (were they trying to hide whether they were nice or not, etc), and I don't want that. I expect that
what people request will be more informative than
who requests.
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