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[Andres]

If you're trying to make a planet as a god of War, by yourself, you're doing something wrong. Or possibly right. Not sure.

Knowing KJP, it's probably not going to be flat restrictions, it's gonna be 'justify to me how this fits your sphere to see how much it costs'.

I edited my last post. Basically, I want my sphere of War to help me when I'm doing war-related stuff. I don't want it giving me a penalty when doing something neutral like creating a planet or writing a book about pears. What I want is it giving me a penalty if I tried to instil a ruler with the desire to make peace with a foreign country.

Science isn't gonna be as important as it was irl, for the simple reason of magic existing. Penicillin isn't as necessary when you have Remove Disease Important, still, sure. But not as much. Magitech will probably happen on it's own once somebody does something capable of enchanting stuff.

Yeah, that's basically what I want. If there's no magic, I want it to go like it did IRL. If magic were available from the start or were injected into it suddenly, I'd want its effects to be the same in the game as they would be IRL.

As for originality, I think he expects you to be more creative than 'I make humans,' considering this is a game about creating things.

The thing is that I actually want that. I don't really get a kick out of making humans (ok I do but anyway), but I do like making things that influence them. I might only create humans so I can fund the creation of angels or so I can invade them with giant monsters. Giant monsters aren't fun when they don't have anyone to terrorise.

Thanks KJP, I'll get my survey answers up in a moment.

[Rolepgeek]

Rolepgeek, in general, there's gonna be a ton of things like creating races that gods will have to do, and, y'know, it shouldn't be impossible for anyone without a sphere of life to make some.

Well duh. Though theoretically there could just be one race that everyone shares and tries to get followers from.

But again. Justify how they have a relation to your sphere. God of Air, you make avian race, pretty logical connection. God of Steel, you make an avian race, kinda odd.

[TheBiggerFish]

Wait, so...4-6 players...Free stuff...Project I Can't Think Of A Good Name could have gone up for FREE?  YISS THIS GAME WILL BE AWESOME.

[Stirk]

Well, it really depends on the game. If it is the kind of game where everything is intergalactic and each God has a dozen planets under their belt, why wouldn't a God of War be able to make a planet himself? Fusil ~almost~ had one...

12: Originality so far has, if I recall correctly, been treated as mostly a "no legitimately licensed works, no overt flamebait" restriction. I myself may not get any lawyergrams, but it tends to be a bad idea to provoke the known litigious copyright/trademark holders. I know there are other games here incorporating licensed works' characters/mechanics, so at least part of this may just be rationalized personal fear. This is why this issue is on the survey.

You really don't have to worry about actual Lawyer's showing up. Parody is protected speech in most Western Countries, and any Lawyer who manages to track you down has probably broken several laws to do so.

The thing is that I actually want that. I don't really get a kick out of making humans (ok I do but anyway), but I do like making things that influence them. I might only create humans so I can fund the creation of angels or so I can invade them with giant monsters. Giant monsters aren't fun when they don't have anyone to terrorise.

Can't you think of literally anything that isn't humans? For example, have "Humans" that walk on their hands and move things with their feet, and have their head moved to be at the same level. Now you have Namuhs, upside down humans that are more or less original. Really, it just takes a little effort, especially if you aren't looking to make anything special.

Rolepgeek, in general, there's gonna be a ton of things like creating races that gods will have to do, and, y'know, it shouldn't be impossible for anyone without a sphere of life to make some.

Well duh. Though theoretically there could just be one race that everyone shares and tries to get followers from.

But again. Justify how they have a relation to your sphere. God of Air, you make avian race, pretty logical connection. God of Steel, you make an avian race, kinda odd.

They are called Airplanes. I don't like having limits like that, especially when I am planning a fairly odd Sphere.

[TheBiggerFish]

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

[Andres]

Spoiler: Survey (click to show/hide)

1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
a. Far too little
b. Too little. It's not right for a god to have so many limitations.
c. Adequate
d. Too much
e. Far too much

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
a. Excessive, i.e. remove stats entirely (e.g. use actions)
b. Sufficient, i.e. an Essence stat for gods is enough
c. Insufficient, i.e. need more stats for gods

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
a. Too little
b. Adequate
c. Too much

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
a. Far too little
b. Too little
c. Enough
d. Too much
e. Far too much

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
a. Less
b. About the same
c. More

6. How important are prompt updates to you?
a. Not important at all
b. Not important
c. Important
d. Very important

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Some
d. A lot
It should remain what it is. Spheres provide bonuses in relevant subjects and should only provide penalties in opposite subjects. Neutral subjects should have neither penalty nor bonus as a result of sphere.

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
a. Reduce
b. Maintain. Individual NPCs should have as much emphasis as before but races and countries as a whole should be more autonomous, similar to how they were IRL.
c. Increase

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
a. Harder
b. Easier

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
a. Yes
b. No

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Much
d. Very much

12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
a. Not at all
b. Not much
c. Some
d. A lot

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
@. Yes. You will never get sued because you made a forum game that uses other peoples' properties. Seriously, it's just not a thing that can happen.
b. Excessive
c. Sufficient
d. Insufficient

13. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
a. Not important
b. Important. Having a Void or a similarly outside force adds to the game.

14. How much realism would you prefer to see?
a. None at all, i.e. a world running on godly actions alone requiring no connection with reality
b. A little, i.e. a fairy tale-like world where much is possible with some resemblence to reality
c. Significant, i.e. a high fantasy setting where technology dominates and magic and divine action are useful only for certain special cases
d. Near-full, i.e. a world adhering to natural laws with godly actions treated very realistically
Mirroring IRL but free creation of non-RL stuff with realistic/appropriate reactions.

15. What part of the game did you most like?
Creation

16. What part of the game did you most dislike?
PvP conflict and intrigue. They should both definitely be in the game, though. I didn't like the conflict only because I lost so much and I disliked the intrigue because it forced me to react to crises when what I wanted to do was create.

17. What do you like ior dislike most about my writing?
Lack of NPC action. The emphasis should remain on gods but in this game the NPCs rarely did anything unless a god was involved.

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
18. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
For: Reduces individual risk; Allows normally minority positions to pass (locally)
Against: Demands increased participation; May supersede per-player diplomacy?
0

19. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
For: Emphasizes one of the main attractions for god games in general
Against: Increased overhead with little effect?
4. Macro stuff should be the main focus but micro stuff should definitely be possible.

20. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
For: Focuses on a popular feature for similar games
Against: Comes at the potential expense of some dissatisfaction
2

21. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
High: Less change to last game's design; Prevents KJP's mood from affecting much
Low: Leads to luck overriding skill; Increases the "human touch" to the story
3. We aren't mere adventurers or mages - we're freaking gods. We should have a high level of "I expect this to happen and it will happen because I'm literally a god."

22. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
High: More relatable; Easier to interact with(/write?)
Low: Possibly more realistic; Aligns with realism more closely
0

23. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
-5: Require creations to be references?
-4: Abolish it
0: Retain it for possible future amendment (in either direction)
4: Strengthen it
5: Block anything previously existing?
-2. Allow subtle references and similar (but still different and reasonably unique) designs.

Open-ended questions:
24. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?
Having a goal should not affect gameplay except as a way for the GM to know what you're trying to do.

25. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)
Default (everyone has it at the start), soul-based magic system that gods can use without Essence.

26. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?
Less puzzles and greater explicit rules on what gods can do without Essence (fighting in corporeal form with a sword, using magic, etc.) Gods should remain able to physically interact with the world as corporeal beings without the use of Essence. (So basically like angels.)

Also, you have two Question 13's.

Can't you think of literally anything that isn't humans? For example, have "Humans" that walk on their hands and move things with their feet, and have their head moved to be at the same level. Now you have Namuhs, upside down humans that are more or less original. Really, it just takes a little effort, especially if you aren't looking to make anything special.

I don't want to put in any extra effort. I just need a basic race to worship me and humans will function perfectly in that role.

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

What!? You can't just export your god from one game and into another! Only losers do that and losers are uncool!

Man, I am so glad I didn't start revealing stuff when Ye Gods ended. Would've limited my options in the upcoming game and in Litany.

[micelus]

Spoiler: Survey (click to show/hide)

1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
c

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
c

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
b

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
e

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
A

6. How important are prompt updates to you?
b

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
d

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
b. That said, please don't make whole races/nations complete puppets for their creators; a little independence wouldn't hurt.

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
b (A tangible health stat with modifiers applied due to spheres [E.g, Fire God is more effective against the Tree God] and creations perhaps?

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
No.

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
d

12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
b (As much as I dislike a lack of orginality, penalties for such things seems excessive)

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
b

13. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
a

14. How much realism would you prefer to see?
c

15. What part of the game did you most like?
Godly Conflict

16. What part of the game did you most dislike?
The Void.
17. What do you like or dislike most about my writing?
N/A

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
18. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
1

19. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
7

20. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
10

21. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
8

22. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
0 (No opinion)

23. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
-4 (Trust me, anything I create will not be generic; I just don't like specific rules against generic creations.)

Open-ended questions:
24. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?
I didn't play in the last game but secret goals sound interesting. I don't think they should be given at game start but come about during natural gameplay. I.e, the Fire God receives secret petitions from the Water worshiper kings requesting his aid in slaughtering Waterguy's daughter-seers in exchange for worship/stuff.

25. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)
I'd need info on what you have right now before I can make a judgement.

26. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?
The only change I'd like to see is the removal of a starting council which is part of the core gameplay, so feel free to ignore me on that.

Spoiler: For Later... (click to show/hide)

Name: Sadiq
Sphere: Djinn and Service.
Primary form: Mundane household object(s). May also take on the form of a humanoid-shaped robe adorned with masks and long tassels.
Associated Symbol: A bundle of sticks in a chalice on a table
Description/Background:

The Prince of Corruption had waited a decade-and-a-half for Sadiq to finish his commission. He had counted the days and hours, just imagining the Yogwin's shrieks as his cattle were slaughtered and their pens brought to ruin. It would be glorious.

"Ah friend, it is good you came. As you can see, I've put together that design of yours...well to be more exact, my little brothers did...Now, let's put it on, yes?"

The Prince had always been perplexed by the God of Service; he had killed three of the deity's allies in war, slaughtering their worshipers to the man and yet the pile of robes still spoke to him as a brother, still offering him servants and crafts.

"A marvelous design; four rows of twenty guns on each augmented by arcano-spirits and crewed by experienced Ogori sailors. Cousin Yogwin will have a good laugh when you ravage his holy city, yes?"

Ah yes, Sadiq had a tendency to consider everyone a relative. Yogwin, the God of Humour, was a close friend of Sadiq; his betrayal would have impressed the Prince had it been anyone else. Sadiq was simply...Sadiq. He did not care for loyalty or friendship save those in the present or memory. One could not rely on Sadiq for any permanent alliance. That said, he was always the first to offer his help in any sort of project, including those of the Prince."

"Brother Prince? Bunny? You heard me yes?"

The Prince, prideful as ever, pretended that he did. It was probably nothing of importance. To be truthful, the Prince cared more for the fact that Sadiq had just called him by his true name. Were it anyone else, the Prince would have had his head.

"Anyway, do enjoy your cruise. Now, I must attend to my little sisters. Say hi to Yogwin for me, yes?"

 

[Stirk]

Spoiler: Survey (click to show/hide)

1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
a. Far too little
b. Too little
c. Adequate
d. Too much
e. Far too much

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
a. Excessive, i.e. remove stats entirely (e.g. use actions)
b. Sufficient, i.e. an Essence stat for gods is enough
c. Insufficient, i.e. need more stats for gods

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
a. Too little
b. Adequate
c. Too much

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
a. Far too little
b. Too little
c. Enough
d. Too much
e. Far too much

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
a. Less
b. About the same
c. More

6. How important are prompt updates to you?
a. Not important at all
b. Not important
c. Important
d. Very important

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Some
d. A lot
It should remain what it is. Spheres provide bonuses in relevant subjects and should only provide penalties in opposite subjects. Neutral subjects should have neither penalty nor bonus as a result of sphere.

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
a. Reduce
b. Maintain
c. Increase

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
a. Harder
b. Easier

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
a. Yes
b. No

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Much
d. Very much

12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
a. Not at all
b. Not much
c. Some
d. A lot

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
@. Yes. You will never get sued because you made a forum game that uses other peoples' properties. Seriously, it's just not a thing that can happen.
b. Excessive
c. Sufficient
d. Insufficient

13. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
a. Not important
b. Important

14. How much realism would you prefer to see?
a. None at all, i.e. a world running on godly actions alone requiring no connection with reality
b. A little, i.e. a fairy tale-like world where much is possible with some resemblence to reality
c. Significant, i.e. a high fantasy setting where technology dominates and magic and divine action are useful only for certain special cases
d. Near-full, i.e. a world adhering to natural laws with godly actions treated very realistically
Mirroring IRL but free creation of non-RL stuff with realistic/appropriate reactions.

15. What part of the game did you most like?
Creation

16. What part of the game did you most dislike?
Divine war

17. What do you like ior dislike most about my writing?
Lack of NPC action. The emphasis should remain on gods but in this game the NPCs rarely did anything unless a god was involved.

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
18. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
For: Reduces individual risk; Allows normally minority positions to pass (locally)
Against: Demands increased participation; May supersede per-player diplomacy?
0

19. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
For: Emphasizes one of the main attractions for god games in general
Against: Increased overhead with little effect?
4. Macro stuff should be the main focus but micro stuff should definitely be possible.

20. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
For: Focuses on a popular feature for similar games
Against: Comes at the potential expense of some dissatisfaction
2

21. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
High: Less change to last game's design; Prevents KJP's mood from affecting much
Low: Leads to luck overriding skill; Increases the "human touch" to the story
3

22. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
High: More relatable; Easier to interact with(/write?)
Low: Possibly more realistic; Aligns with realism more closely
0

23. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
-5: Require creations to be references?
-4: Abolish it
0: Retain it for possible future amendment (in either direction)
4: Strengthen it
5: Block anything previously existing?
-2. Allow subtle references and similar (but still different and reasonably unique) designs.

Open-ended questions:
24. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?
Having a goal should not affect gameplay except as a way for the GM to know what you're trying to do.

25. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)
Default (everyone has it at the start), soul-based magic system that gods can use without Essence.

26. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?
Less puzzles and greater explicit rules on what gods can do without Essence (fighting in corporeal form with a sword, using magic, etc.) Gods should remain able to physically interact with the world as corporeal beings without the use of Essence. (So basically like angels.)

Also, you have two Question 13's.

Can't you think of literally anything that isn't humans? For example, have "Humans" that walk on their hands and move things with their feet, and have their head moved to be at the same level. Now you have Namuhs, upside down humans that are more or less original. Really, it just takes a little effort, especially if you aren't looking to make anything special.

I don't want to put in any extra effort. I just need a basic race to worship me and humans will function perfectly in that role.

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

What!? You can't just export your god from one game and into another! Only losers do that and losers are uncool!

Man, I am so glad I didn't start revealing stuff when Ye Gods ended. Would've limited my options in the upcoming game and in Litany.

....I totally agree with the Import thing Andres  .

"Not wanting to put any effort into making races" is just kind of...boring? Unsportsmanlike? I can't think of a word that describes it. I don't like it. "I am not putting effort into this community game" is just not a good thing to say. It isn't extra effort. It is literally any effort. The whole point of a God Game is world creation, and not putting in at least an attempt at originality in something we all work to make is almost insulting to all the other players. You can ask for help if you want, War gods are easy to make things for (like Fusil's), I am sure we could all work together to give you something-that-is-not-Human.

[Andres]

"Not wanting to put any effort into making races" is just kind of...boring? Unsportsmanlike? I can't think of a word that describes it. I don't like it. "I am not putting effort into this community game" is just not a good thing to say. It isn't extra effort. It is literally any effort. The whole point of a God Game is world creation, and not putting in at least an attempt at originality in something we all work to make is almost insulting to all the other players. You can ask for help if you want, War gods are easy to make things for (like Fusil's), I am sure we could all work together to give you something-that-is-not-Human.

No no, it's not that I don't like creation. Creation was my favourite part of Ye Gods, even. It's just that creating a race to worship me isn't that important to me. Magic, projects, weapons, artifacts, worlds, etc. are all things I'm interested in creating. Races are pretty much the only thing I don't care about putting effort into creating.

EDIT: I wrote a one thousand-word description of a creature I planned to make to KJP. The idea that I don't put effort into creation as a whole is false. I'm just disinterested in one of its aspects, said aspect being popular to most other players.

[TheBiggerFish]

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

What!? You can't just export your god from one game and into another! Only losers do that and losers are uncool!

I'm not.  I'm exporting my spheres.  I fully expect this character to develop differently.
But still do an automated planet.
Okay, maybe I am.  ;/
But still, I like magitech.
And ..Ooh, idea!  And a really good one, too!
Okay, I'm not importing anything.  Although, in the end, some positions will probably end up the same.

Name: Yena
Sphere:  Growth, in the sense of grassroots movements, snowball effects, and small ideas resulting in world-shaking changes.  Inspiration.
Appearance: Takes many forms, all of them subtle but recognizable for their aura of potential.  Public Appearances Form is generally a flower growing from a floating seed, in such a form as to convey a similar body type as the worshippers to whom Yena is appearing.  The seed will always appear at the heart of the form.
Symbol: An open seed, unfurling into a blooming flower.

Sufficiently different/interesting?

[Andres]

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

What!? You can't just export your god from one game and into another! Only losers do that and losers are uncool!

I'm not.  I'm exporting my spheres.  I fully expect this character to develop differently.

The joke was that Iliseth was pretty much an expy of Malakath from Ye Gods.

[TheBiggerFish]

I am probably going to import my sphere from Litany, myself, but come up with a name that isn't a thinly veiled pun.  I like science and magitech.  ;P

What!? You can't just export your god from one game and into another! Only losers do that and losers are uncool!

I'm not.  I'm exporting my spheres.  I fully expect this character to develop differently.

The joke was that Iliseth was pretty much an expy of Malakath from Ye Gods.

Well, joke aside, I just had an amazing idea so thanks!

[Stirk]

"Not wanting to put any effort into making races" is just kind of...boring? Unsportsmanlike? I can't think of a word that describes it. I don't like it. "I am not putting effort into this community game" is just not a good thing to say. It isn't extra effort. It is literally any effort. The whole point of a God Game is world creation, and not putting in at least an attempt at originality in something we all work to make is almost insulting to all the other players. You can ask for help if you want, War gods are easy to make things for (like Fusil's), I am sure we could all work together to give you something-that-is-not-Human.

No no, it's not that I don't like creation. Creation was my favourite part of Ye Gods, even. It's just that creating a race to worship me isn't that important to me. Magic, projects, weapons, artifacts, worlds, etc. are all things I'm interested in creating. Races are pretty much the only thing I don't care about putting effort into creating.

Races are, arguably, more important than most of those things. They are a really important part of world creation, an empty world is simply unsuitable for world creation. If your reasoning was that you just like the concept of it or something would be fine, but "I can't be bothered to make something else" isn't an answer you should expect people to be OK with. Like I said, you could have help from one of us...Falg and I like making a bunch of races. It isn't any effort to make something that isn't human. Putting in humans, of all things, automatically changes the tone of most worlds. Even changing the name would give it a different tone....

...And we should *probably* stop covering poor KJP with character sheets until after he gets the game up. _{I take full responsibility for bringing these people here....}

[micelus]

Oh I'm just keeping it here so I don't forget the concept~

[Rolepgeek]

Airplanes aren't a race, silly.

Nor are the intrinsically tied to steel. They made 'em with wood.

In any case, KJP explained it anyway.

Though I kinda have to figure out a new god concept, since I've kinda used all the ones I've had. Hmmm. Oh wait, no, I remember, god of Gambling, that's right. Don't wanna do Vengeance since Darruth was chock-full of that, though. Rebirth would be interesting. I like doing gods with darker aspects too though...hmmmm...

I don't want to put in any extra effort. I just need a basic race to worship me and humans will function perfectly in that role.

And there's your problem.

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1. How much player power (as opposed to GM power) did you feel there was during YG0?
c. Adequate

2. What did you think of having a one-dimensional stat (Essence) for gods?
I'm caught between B. and C., because I actually really like the way Stirk did Essence, Power, and Crux, but at the same time, this game handled one stat more or less fine. It can be annoying when it's 'shit shit shit I need to do stuff to protect myself but if I use Essence to protect myself I can be killed but if I don't I can be killed anyway what do I do shit shit shit', but on the whole the only god who actually had an issue with getting killed whilst nominally able to defend themselves was Yaos, and that was because there were individuals with power and a vendetta.

3. What did you think of the amount of conflict?
Eh...a little bit much, but only really because whenever it happened it happened in bursts and everything got crazy and people tried to do everything all at once. There were no true sieges, only skirmishes and cold wars. Which, in a game where everyone effectively has WMDs, makes sense, I suppose.

4. How much power do you think the Council had?
Too little power in practice, too much in theory. Speed versus organisation versus kindof an inorganic system of doing it.

5. How much emphasis should secret actions be given?
I have no idea.

No seriously, I barely used them compared to a lot of people, from what I could tell. No clue how much emphasis they really had.

6. How important are prompt updates to you?
b. Not important
Meh. I tend to like Ross' games. You wait in those. You learn to be patient. Plus, can't always get everything every day.

7. How much do you think a god's actions should be governed by sphere?
C. Some

8. How would you like to change the emphasis on NPCs?
Maybe a little bit of an increase.

9. How easy should gods be to kill? (suggestions recommended for attack and defense components)
Gah! Uh...not sure, really. Harder, I think, but that's mostly because I prefer the idea of weakening/destroying a god indirectly. It's a game of strategy to me, after all.

10. Would you like to see a ministers system implemented at the start of (a) future game(s)? (The ministers system likely involves increased votes for elected ministers on their departments and a system for electing them. Note that such a system can be implemented ior removed later as with other Council projects assuming a similar or identical Council setup.)
b. No

11. How much should players be allowed to interfere with each other's creations at the start?
a. Very little
b. Little
c. Much
d. Very much

12. How much should lack of originality be penalized?
b. Not much

13. Given the Captain Ersatz rule, do you think my fear of lawyers was excessive or insufficient?
Meh. I like it just for discouraging laziness (*coughyouknowwhoyouarecough*), but inspiration's still fine and I think the fear itself was silly.

13b. How important is an overall cooperative goal for the gods? (YG0's cooperative goal was intended to be any combination of understanding, expanding, assimilating with the Void factions, or beginning a long quest to exterminate them.)
I kinda liked it. Not necessary, but if there's an overall plot that can stir when things start to get stagnant or unpleasant and kick everyone into motion, it's pretty nice. Worked well last game, that's for sure.

14. How much realism would you prefer to see?
Eh. I like 'permeable physics', so to speak. Mostly the same physics, but with magic pretty commonplace, and if a god wants to do it, they can. Working within physics probably makes it easier, what with the 'bend-reality-tax' (even gods have not escaped taxes, only death(OOH God of Taxes. That's what I'll be. Public enemy Number One. XD))

15. What part of the game did you most like?

16. What part of the game did you most dislike?

17. What do you like ior dislike most about my writing?

0-10 scale questions (10 highest):
18. How much would you like to have the pantheon split into 2-3 administrative teams at the start?
For: Reduces individual risk; Allows normally minority positions to pass (locally)
Against: Demands increased participation; May supersede per-player diplomacy?

2

19. How much granularity/fine-grained control do you feel is ideal for world design?
For: Emphasizes one of the main attractions for god games in general
Against: Increased overhead with little effect?

7?

20. How much would you want increased attention to intrigue?
For: Focuses on a popular feature for similar games
Against: Comes at the potential expense of some dissatisfaction

7?

21. How much do you value randomness (dice with non-arbitrary modifiers) over intuition (KJP's festering and brooding)
High: Less change to last game's design; Prevents KJP's mood from affecting much
Low: Leads to luck overriding skill; Increases the "human touch" to the story

3-4

22. On a scale of -5 to 5, how much anthropomorphism/anthropocentrism do you expect of unspecified NPCs?
High: More relatable; Easier to interact with(/write?)
Low: Possibly more realistic; Aligns with realism more closely

-1 or 0?

23. On a scale of -5 to 5 (higher being stronger), how strong would you want the Captain Ersatz rule to be?
2 or 3?

Open-ended questions:
24. What do you think of secret goals and how they should be rewarded, determined, integrated, &c.?
I dunno. It's kinda nice to give yourself a goal just so you, the player, can have something to work towards and have fun playing the game, but most seemed to be pretty far fetched to try and do.

25. What sort of magic system do you want? (I have already prepared a more mechanically developed one to replace the loose, broken old one. It is still highly extensible.)
Eh...I like magic being not quite related to the gods, if only because the entire world being god-centric felt off to me. Obviously, there are gods, and obviously, religion is a big deal, and there are certainly stories where they're such a big deal that all magic does come from the gods, but personally, I prefer it where people can have magic without the gods. Not necessarily abandoning them to do so, but just so there can be low levels of basic magic theoretically possible for people without needing to be priests. Depends on magic capability of species, person in question, and their education and blah, but still. And animals, actually. It'd be really subtle, unflashy, 'weak' stuff, instinctive, kinda, but the idea of the 'look-at-me-nots' and 'seeker-peeker' for prey and predator stuff just adds a nice touch of flavor. If that's the world one's going for, at least.

Oh! And maybe a bit less plane stuff. More interesting when the gods are amorphous beings that have to go through the 'material plane' than having a separate divine realm for everyone, but that was a result of divine action, so I'll just have to shape it myself.

26. Any other changes/features you want in the base game?
Uhh....I don't think so. It's pretty extensive as is.

Oh, and what Stirk said. Oddly. Somehow Andres causes us to agree on stuff. It's weird. STOP IT ANDRES YOU'RE MAKING ME UNCOMFORTABLE