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« Reply #540 on: October 25, 2014, 02:37:16 am »

I don't think any of the current gods are even capable of creating necromantic swords, save Joha, but it would take her a lot more Essence than it would a god of death. Humanos Grande are easier to kill than titans and have a healing factor equivalent to humans.
Um, just to remind you, but both Enchantment and Necromancy are both types of magic that mortals have access to, and mortals aren't idiots...

Besides, I could probably do it too....
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« Reply #541 on: October 25, 2014, 02:37:59 am »

15 metres tall? I doubt it. Even then, animals > plants of equal size. Rule of nature. Plus, I have 1,000 of them. Any 15 metre-tall Gruen - if they even exist - would me much rarer than a Humanos Grande.
Ready to make peace talks? :P /joke This is a joke. Please don't take it seriously. For humour only.
At the same time, plants don't go around talking and building towns and stuff, and plantzombie-like giants don't exist in nature. ;)
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« Reply #542 on: October 25, 2014, 02:59:50 am »

I don't think any of the current gods are even capable of creating necromantic swords, save Joha, but it would take her a lot more Essence than it would a god of death. Humanos Grande are easier to kill than titans and have a healing factor equivalent to humans.
Um, just to remind you, but both Enchantment and Necromancy are both types of magic that mortals have access to, and mortals aren't idiots...
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I don't think any of the current gods are even capable of creating necromantic swords, save Joha, but it would take her a lot more Essence than it would a god of death. Humanos Grande are easier to kill than titans and have a healing factor equivalent to humans.
Um, just to remind you, but both Enchantment and Necromancy are both types of magic that mortals have access to, and mortals aren't idiots...

Besides, I could probably do it too....
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15 metres tall? I doubt it. Even then, animals > plants of equal size. Rule of nature. Plus, I have 1,000 of them. Any 15 metre-tall Gruen - if they even exist - would me much rarer than a Humanos Grande.
Ready to make peace talks? :P /joke This is a joke. Please don't take it seriously. For humour only.
At the same time, plants don't go around talking and building towns and stuff, and plantzombie-like giants don't exist in nature. ;)
HAHAHAHA YES THEY DO BECAUSE THEY ARE MADE BY GODS AND NATURE IS ALSO MADE BY GODS AND GODS ARE NATURE SO HUMANOS ARE ALSO NATURAL JUST LIKE TREES AND ROCKS AND HUMANS AND POOP AND CLOUDS
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« Reply #543 on: October 25, 2014, 03:42:14 am »

Also, I have managed to make a few extra arrows in my little shipping map.
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« Reply #544 on: October 25, 2014, 03:54:06 am »

Also, I have managed to make a few extra arrows in my little shipping map.
Going to add that to post one or the war site?
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« Reply #545 on: October 25, 2014, 03:56:31 am »

Probably the war site.
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« Reply #546 on: October 25, 2014, 04:50:52 am »

In reference to the book the god of humans just made, how does having an afterlife work? I was kind of assuming that souls stayed there for a while, but eventually went on to another life.

Edit : Also, how does that lifespan effecting thing the book claims is true actually work? That sounds kind of like you'd need to spend a miracle every turn on making it true.
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« Reply #547 on: October 25, 2014, 04:57:12 am »

Reincarnation is what happens when they worship other gods as primary gods. Going to the Human Plane is just at thing that happens when they worship Yaos as a primary god.

All the miracle stuff that happens is offset by belief to such an extent that I get a net profit from their worship. Plus, the more good they do, the more influence humans are seen to have, which is one of my spheres. Their endeavouring to do good things can also be seen as ambition, which is also one of my spheres.
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« Reply #548 on: October 25, 2014, 05:02:03 am »

Didn't the GM already decide only ambition counts?
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« Reply #549 on: October 25, 2014, 05:04:16 am »

Reincarnation is what happens when they worship other gods as primary gods. Going to the Human Plane is just at thing that happens when they worship Yaos as a primary god.

All the miracle stuff that happens is offset by belief to such an extent that I get a net profit from their worship. Plus, the more good they do, the more influence humans are seen to have, which is one of my spheres. Their endeavouring to do good things can also be seen as ambition, which is also one of my spheres.
Er, several of the other gods have made an afterlife, including me. I was kinda assuming none of the afterlives were permanent, because otherwise we're going to end up with a huge amount of people in them eventually, and it was a council vote that made the reincarnation system. So I was under the impression that reincarnating could be put off for a while, but not ignored utterly.

Also, I'll need a DM quote on claiming that it's a net profit for you, or even a break even thing, and you never have to spend essence or a miracle on it ever even though you're effecting other god's worshipers in negative ways as well as effecting thousands and thousands of people in different, personalized ways per person.

You did have to spend a chunk of essence last time you tried cursing all heretics after all...
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« Reply #550 on: October 25, 2014, 05:11:22 am »

Didn't the GM already decide only ambition counts?
Actua-.....oh right. He did.

Er, several of the other gods have made an afterlife, including me. I was kinda assuming none of the afterlives were permanent, because otherwise we're going to end up with a huge amount of people in them eventually, and it was a council vote that made the reincarnation system. So I was under the impression that reincarnating could be put off for a while, but not ignored utterly.

Also, I'll need a DM quote on claiming that it's a net profit for you, or even a break even thing, and you never have to spend essence or a miracle on it ever even though you're effecting other god's worshipers in negative ways as well as effecting thousands and thousands of people in different, personalized ways per person.

You did have to spend a chunk of essence last time you tried cursing all heretics after all...
The council created the reincarnation system but there was no proposal saying that gods HAD to have their followers use it. I'm also pretty sure our afterlives are pretty infinite in size, as afterlives are wont to be. Why else does the spirit world exist if not to make new realms? It's all it seems good for.

Basically, I have it on automatic. If I get less profit, I give less life. If I get more profit, I give more life. If I don't get profit, I don't give life. Think of it less as digital payments and more as analogous flows. Followers don't get negative effects. Heretics do, and I already spent the single amount of Essence needed to curse all present and future Heretics. The curse is still active I think and the book merely describes the curse.

Any more questions?
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« Reply #551 on: October 25, 2014, 05:32:06 am »

Snip.
Again, as I said, I'll need a DM quote on it before I'd believe that it'd work without active and expensive support per tick.
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« Reply #552 on: October 25, 2014, 06:48:00 am »

Clarifications/Definitions
Captain Ersatz: I know all of you probably find work X super interesting, but can we put a stop to references or tone them down? It's true that there's nothing new, but part of the point of this game is to create, and copying existing characters and things seems against the spirit of it (but mostly, I just don't want to end up in a copyright mess, however fair use and parody work).
IC: In-character. Debate, rage, create, or something else. If things escalate, make sure it's clear that the escalation is only between characters and not players.
OOC: This means Out of Character. Not Half-Wearing Character as I often do with jackets but completely Out of Character. If we were to send a sample of OOC text and IC text to a random person, they should seem very different not only in identity but also in mood.
OOC thread: Here, you post calmly and avoid using too much snark (mostly for efficiency). I guess you can also discuss random things, but your character stays on the Game thread and in action PMs. Arrogance, excessive competitiveness, and not completely separating player and character are all grounds for a warning.
Plot armor: The DeityManager reserves the right to keep this creation in existence for as long as he suspects it will add to the plot. It basically goes to zero if you do things like annoy other players (and probably their characters too) by, e.g. stomping their creations with the disapproval of the DM.
Price: Does not always scale with power
Price check: A typical price check includes 1). $$$, 2). a little bit of fluff so I know what you're talking about, and 3). a more mechanics-oriented description of the item you want a quote for. If I detect multiple obvious attempts at creating overpowered things, you will get a warning.
Thetis' folly: Focusing too much on your creations' weaknesses and patching them up. If you patch up a weakness one way, an onlooker will find a way to make another one two ways or something like that. Focus on exploiting their strengths and everyone will be happier and more interested. Remember that your creations are never completely invincible.
Unique: This makes replicating the creation almost impossible by way of increased price. It grants minor plot armor, defined above.
Warning: This is a friendly reminder to stop a specific behavior. Three warnings render your character inactive for a tick and more are left to the DM's discretion

I know you, the reader, may find yourself reacting poorly to this list of confusion. It honestly isn't directed at you (sing.). If a lot of the mistakes seem close to what you have actually done, you've succeeded at identifying your own deficiencies and are better at self-improvement than many or even most people. I hope this list clears up a little bit about my expectations.



Now that that Very Special Post is out of the way, it's time to address some of the recent stuff.

I have several hidden checks for preventing infinite loops of infinite Essence income. As you may expect, some of them involves Worship and Belief. These are the relevant rules:

Belief is like a non-conservative force: You can never make additional Essence income from Belief directly, and Belief is very situational. If you do not use up Belief, you do not get bonus Essence. If you use up Belief, you just get an Essence discount (which looks like bonus income but is not). Addidtionally, belief is not to be applied to recurring/ritual* things

Worship is a measurement of the rate of worshipping going on per unit of time. You deplete it by losing worshippers or losing Worship Quality and gain it by gaining worshippers or gaining Worship Quality. It is a component of your Essence income but it is not equivalent. Also, that does not Worship which can eternal lie, and with strange powers, Worship** may die (Immortals such as spirits produce no Worship, things stronger than a small dragon produce diminished Worship).

*At this point, ritual referred to periodic actions and stuff like that
**The scansion is poor, but I didn't expect to have to publish them
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« Reply #553 on: October 25, 2014, 06:54:25 am »

Thank you for clarification!
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« Reply #554 on: October 25, 2014, 06:57:51 am »

I can abide by this.
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