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10 (58.8%)

Total Members Voted: 17

[Andres]

Sorry for double post but Lost in Nowhere isn't on the second post in the IC thread under the 'Players' spoiler. Just looking at it I also realise I'm not in it either but that's acceptable what with my being technically inactive.
In the last tick, Lost in Nowhere's god is referred to as his player name rather than Joha, the name of the god. His sphere isn't mentioned either.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Whoops! Local copy fixed, 2nd post updated.

[Kilojoule Proton]

So I have a funny story. It's not really that funny, but it's relevant to the voting system.

Short story: So far, I've counted the whole 60% support thing by dividing by the number of active gods. This is was done instead of dividing by the total number of support/oppose assuming at least 50% voted at all, which would have yielded a more accurate display of proposal support or opposition and prevented the formation of a proposal snowball.

In the new and intended system, proposals resolve when the following conditions are met:

• Over 50% of the active gods voted either support, oppose, or abstain
• If opposition is non-zero, then over 60% of the votes are support votes or over 60% of the votes are oppose votes
• If opposition is zero, then over 50% of the votes are support votes or over 50% of the votes are oppose votes

This way, Abstain votes actually work as intended and help make the proposal resolve (whether to pass or to fail) more quickly. An updated proposalog is placed here for critique:

Spoiler: Proposalog (click to show/hide)

02.01.a.1: Create 300 sapients to seed the world (2-4/13) <2-3 (2-3)>
+2 from Serac, The Light,
0 from Cim, Kli, Johac
-4 from Varee, Grauel (#), Artisanii, Yaos

02.01.a.2.1: Support graded free will (i.e. progressively increased) (4-4/13) <1-2?> [OBSOLETE]
+4 from Cim, The Light, Khaziraad, Johac
0 from Kli
-4 from Varee, Grauel, Artisanii, Yaos

02.03: Create up to ~30 total immortal, godinalized servants (7-3/13) <13-14 (3-4)> [IMMINENT PASS]
+7 from Valkiss, Azem, Fusil, Cim, The Light, Khaziraad, Anath
0 from Kli, Artisanii, Johac
-3 from Serac, Grauel, Varee
Warning: Servants will be deployed only for supporting gods.

02.04.2: Support creation of a corporeal realm for every god or every pair of gods (2-6/13) <?> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from Anath, The Light
0 from Kli, Johac
-6 from Cim, Serac, Varee, Grauel (@), Artisanii, Yaos

02.04.3: Support further amendment to Valkiss' proposal (5-1/13) <?> [IMMINENT PASS]
+5 from Fusil, Cim, The Light, Khaziraad, Grauel
0 from Kli, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac
-1 from Varee

02.04.4: Support Serac's world model (aligned) (2-5/13) <8-10 (8-10)> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from Serac, Artisanii
0 from Cim, Kli, Johac
-5 from , Fusil, Varee, The Light, Grauel (@), Yaos
02.04.4.1: Support adding life bringers to Serac's world model (1-5/13) <2-3 (2-3)> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+1 from Serac
0 from Kli, Johac
-5 from Varee, Cim, The Light, Artisanii, Yaos
02.04.4.2: Support adding wisps to Serac's world model (1-7/13) <1-2 (1-2)> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+1 from Serac
0 from Kli, Johac
-7 from Fusil, Varee, Cim, The Light, Grauel (@), Artisanii, Yaos

02.04.5: Support focusing on getting a world now and details later (8-1/13) <?> [OBSOLETE]
+8 from Anath, Kli, Fusil, The Light, Khaziraad, Grauel, Artisanii, Yaos
0 from Cim, Johac
-1 from Varee

02.04.6: Support toroidal corporeal worlds (3-1/13) <0 (0)> [OBSOLETE]
+3 from Varee, The Light, Artisanii
0 from Cim, Kli, Johac
-1 Grauel

02.05: Support creating godinalized primary races (3-3/13) <2-3 (2-3)>
+3 from Kli, The Light, Serac
0 from Cim, Kli, Artisanii, Johac
-3 from Varee, Grauel, Yaos
Warning: Assumed up to 300 individuals total

02.06: Support making world ready for construction (aligned) (5-1/13) <0 (0)> [OBSOLETE]
+5 from Khaziraad, Cim, The Light, Artisanii, Yaos
0 from Kli, Grauel, Johac
-1 from Varee

02.07: Name world "Pat the Bob" (1-7/13) <0 (0)> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+1 from Varee
0 from Kli
-7 from Cim, Anath, The Light, Grauel, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac

03.01: Only deities supporting a proposal enter the Essence pool (6-3/13) [IMMINENT PASS]
+6 from Varee, The Light, Khaziraad, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac
0 from Kli, Grauel
-3 from Fusil, Anoth, Cim

03.02: Leveled reincarnation and multiple afterlife (dimensions?/partitions?) (2-7/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from The Light, Anath
0 from Kli, Artisanii
-7 from Fusil, Cim, Serac(@), Grauel, Varee, Yaos, Johac
03.02.1:Focus on weapons (2-4/13)
+2 from The Light, Anath
0 from Kli, Grauel
-4 from Varee, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac

03.03 Serac's world plan: Planeworlds, magic and mundane (3-4/13) [OBSOLETE]
+3 from Serac, The Light, Artisanii
0 from Azem, Kli, Grauel, Johac
-4 from Fusil, Varee, Cim, Yaos

03.04: Regular sun, spherical planets ((8-9)-1/13) [OBSOLETE]
+8-7 from Grauel, Anoth, Fusil?, Azem, Khaziraad, Kli, The Light, Artisanii, Yaos
0 from Cim, Grauel, Johac
-1 from Varee

03.05: Focus on creatures and then planets (2-6/13) [OBSOLETE]
+2 from Fusil, The Light
0 from Kli, Johac
-6 from Varee, Cim, Serac, Grauel, Artisanii, Yaos

03.06.1: Make magical constellations that influence magic on the worlds (8-2/13) [IMMINENT PASS]
+8 from Anoth, Azem, Serac, Kli, The Light, Khaziraad, Artisanii, Yaos
0 from Johac
-2 from Cim, Varee

03.08: Offensive magic requires a weapon as a component (2-6/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from Fusil, The Light
0 from Cim, Kli, Johac
-6 from Anath, Serac, Grauel (#), Varee, Artisanii, Yaos

03.09: Name the two partitions Keshan and Slytha (4-2/13)
+4 from Serac, The Light, Artisanii, Johac
0from Cim, Kli, Grauel
-2 from Varee, Yaos

03.10: Arrest propositions until 02.01.a.1 – 03.07 are resolved (3-6/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+3 from The Light, Azem, Grauel
-5 from Anath, Cim, Varee, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac

03.11: Delegate beast and landmark creation to gods in accordance with a currently un-created code of conduct (1-6/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+1 from The Light
0 from Johac
-6 from Anath, Azem, Cim (#), Varee, Artisanii, Yaos
~ from Grauel
03.11.1: Define deity actions not requiring council approval and create the code of conduct (3-2/13)
+3 from Cim, Artisanii, Kli
0 from Johac
-2 from Varee, Yaos

03.12: Raise the required support to pass an unopposed proposal to 60% (2-5/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from Cim, Artisanii
-5 from Fusil, Anath, Varee, Yaos, Johac
03.12.1: Restrict 03.12 to deities without a nemesis (1-6/13) [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+1 from Cim
-6 from Fusil, Anath, Varee, Artisanii, Yaos, Johac

04.01: Create grand ecumenical temples for every race (4-2/13) <High 3-4>
+4 from Cim, Kli, Artisanii, Johac
0 from Artisanii (@)
-2 from Varee, Yaos

04.03: Remove proposals stagnant for 3 ticks or double opposed to supported for 1 tick (6-2/13) <0> [IMMINENT PASS]
+6 Serac, Artisanii, Khaziraad, Grauel, Yaos, Johac
0 from Kli
-2 from Cim, Varee

05.00: Teach the mortals how to gamble (1-2/13) <0> [OBSOLETE]
+1 from Varee
0 from Kli, Yaos, Johac
-2 from Cim, Artisanii

05.01: Make one planet have a (subjectively) harsh climate and the other a (subjectively) mild climate (2-5/13) <0> [IMMINENT FAILURE]
+2 from The Light, Khaziraad
0 from Johac
-5 from Fusil, Varee, Cim, Artisanii, Yaos

06.00: Punish those who make deals with Void Ones by removing their creative privileges for three (3) ticks (3-2/13) <0>
+2 from Fusil, Cim, Johac
0 from Artisanii, Yaos
-2 from Varee, Khaziraad

If any of you have problems with the new system, please do list them immediately.

[Happerry]

System looks good to me,

Also, oh god of life, are wood elves just generic elves or do they actually have any innate gifts?

[IcyTea31]

On the topic of naming conventions, I stole was inspired by the god Zin from the game Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup. Some character evolution later, the connection lies only in the name anymore.

[Vgray]

Ye Gods. (Har, har.) I'll have to think on this later. Explaining why currency is a good idea is harder than it sounds.

[Happerry]

With the Firstborn Star Elves and the... um, Laterborn Star Elves I kinda expect the first real organized genealogy type things to be made, as probably the firstborn descendents are going to want to keep track of that for bragging rights, as well as using it to claim they should be nobles or kings or such, later on...

[IcyTea31]

Ye Gods. (Har, har.) I'll have to think on this later. Explaining why currency is a good idea is harder than it sounds.

Currency in comparison to practical trade goods:

• Easier to carry and store.
• Hopefully harder to counterfeit.
• Value doesn't necessarily depend on who the buyer and seller are.
• ...which means there is less arbitrage, but it is easier to see and more firm.
• Never loses value due to spoilage.
• A service can be given a firm price, including salaries for work.
• Fluctuations of economy have a baseline to compare to.
• A person can count his net worth and compare it to that of others. The same for nations and their GNPs.
• International trade becomes easier as per previous point.

Also, the Mountwyrms are technically already using currency in the form of their shinies that they can't really use for anything other than wanting more of due to their divine alignment.

[Happerry]

I am so tempted to drop eight 'limited edition lunar coins' down there, one for each phase of the moon, and watch them scramble around to try to claim them for their own.

[Vgray]

I wonder how much the whims of Azem screw with the economy? Such as it. Nobodies even invented the printing press yet and we still have the potential for chronic inflation.

By the way, who thinks the Mountwyrms need a little toughening up in the form of a famine or drought or two?

[IcyTea31]

By the way, who thinks the Mountwyrms need a little toughening up in the form of a famine or drought or two?

That wouldn't be good for you, actually. A famine might teach them the value of shinies in comparison to food, leading to them appreciating food more than money, and then gm8181 can jump in with Grauel and profit.

[Vgray]

Rats. Eh...I suppose the Mountwyrms have a certain charm to them.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

$$$
A paradise ocean in the spirit dimension.
Actually, and a regular ocean in the spirit world.

[Kilojoule Proton]

$$$Response:
High 0-1 total for an aligned personal partition in the spirit dimension. This is usable as an afterlife or a godly villa of some sort.

[Andres]

$$$
Ripping out a portion of the currently empty spirit world and making it into a custom afterlife for my followers.