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Chevaleresse

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Modding hybrids
« on: October 11, 2014, 08:06:30 pm »
Ignoring the part where I determine which attributes should come from which race, what hybrids to make, etc; how do I mod in hybrid races/mostly unrelated species to the same CREATURE entry? I know you have to use castes, but I'd prefer to do the smallest number of modifications to the base creature. The reason I'm hesistant is that I'm not just adding or removing individual parts; each critter will have different bodily dimensions, different MAXAGEs, etc. Do I have to go all the way to defining the creature over and over in each individual caste?

A working example would be nice.
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2014, 08:18:48 pm »
Both BODY_SIZE and MAXAGE are caste level tokens (which http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2014:Creature_token will tell you also for whichever other tokens you might be wondering about).  You can overwrite only the caste level attributes you care about and they'll inherit all the creature-level and all the unchanged caste-level tokens from the general creature.  You can look at ologs and snaga in MDF orc fortress, which are part-breed trollish and goblinish orcs.
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2014, 08:49:17 pm »
So, if I had dwarves, and defined a caste with a different body detail plan (say three arms, for whatever reason) and different length/broadness/body size. Would that overwrite the previous definitions, or give the "fractal limbs" effect?
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2014, 09:23:06 pm »
oh, no, you're right.... BODY is a complicated exception, because of the fractal limbs effect.  If you're going to have different BODY's then do them each at the caste level.  I think the example below (cf. equite and myrmadon castes) will work properly but no guarantees, i haven't used it for a long time

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« Last Edit: October 11, 2014, 09:25:12 pm by smakemupagus »
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2014, 11:06:42 pm »
Note that the YESHARDERINVADER stuff is for the Masterwork GUI and does not actually have an effect in-game.
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2014, 11:20:26 pm »
Yep, good point thanks Putnam :)

The "Battlecry" interaction (Masterwork) and "Hide Effect" (... Dwarf Chocolate?)  spell are non-Vanilla too if I'm not mistaken. 
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2014, 04:39:52 pm »
Hide is in Vanilla, I think.

Pretty sure you can just remove the body tag from the creature level and just define different bodies for each caste individually.
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Re: Modding hybrids
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2014, 02:02:07 am »
Quote from: IamanElfCollaborator on October 12, 2014, 04:39:52 pm
Hide is in Vanilla, I think.

It isn't; MATERIAL_EMISSION_WITH_HIDE_EFFECT is, but a naked HIDE isn't.
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