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[Andres]

((Also i thought you said it was an accident. Admitting the truth now, hrmmm?))

(Said what was an accident?)

((Besides which, I didn't 'forgive' him for genociding a city, nor was it about you claiming moons. His cause(not his actions) were just, because Yaos was getting out-of-hand in terms of trying to grab stuff and being so very aggressive towards anything trying to keep him from holding on. Yaos made power plays while claiming to be righteous, Grauel makes power plays without caring about righteousness, and Darruth is righteous but doesn't make power plays(or at least he hasn't yet).))

(Actually, all Yaos did was claim what was his by contract. He should only have a sixth of the moons because it was six gods who made them, but since one of the gods is inactive he felt he could have a fifth of the moons and each of the other four gods could also have fifths of the moons. The only 'aggressiveness' Yaos did was saying that anyone who tried to steal his moons would be blocked from entering, told to leave, or if those two options failed, use force to make them leave (ideally in a non-lethal fashion). That to me is more 'defensive' than 'aggressive'.)

((Oh, I'm sorry, I have to try and good a sizable worship base before I start flipping out at someone with a great deal of power without the council behind me. >.> Especially when they could literally kill me at any time if they really wanted to.))

(It wasn't criticism, I understand. It's just that Azem might simply see it as you being a coward and thus call you 'Good' ironically for only doing good when it's easy and convenient when most say that Good is goodest when it's hard to do Good. In other news, incorrect capitalisation has increased 500% ever since you entered the scene. )

"How many souls tire of paradise I wonder, and would jump at the chance to be reborn?

"Hehe. You'd be surprised how often that question comes up. The answer is none. That's the point of eternal paradise. The souls never get bored. They just feel good forever."

[DreamerGhost]

"Frankly, if souls can spend eternity without wanting to go back and help out others in achieving the spiritual purity needed to enter this "paradice" of yours, they are hardly good, would you dissagree?"

[Vgray]

(I've never really used it, but I had the idea that all gods Azem doesn't like, Fusil and Cim mostly, he doesn't bother to use their names and just uses their spheres or titles.)

[Stirk]

(I've never really used it, but I had the idea that all gods Azem doesn't like, Fusil and Cim mostly, he doesn't bother to use their names and just uses their spheres or titles.)

(I have been doing the opposite. The ones I like I use titles, as a sign of respect, the ones I don't I use their real name )

"Hehe. You'd be surprised how often that question comes up. The answer is none. That's the point of eternal paradise. The souls never get bored. They just feel good forever."

"Begone from this council, petty Angel. You have no idea how the perfect cycle works, and how stupid Yaos was in implementing his two afterlifes. If it was so perfect, then why did he only allow such a small percentage of it? My followers will live forever on our pefect worlds, as was the original intent. "

[Andres]

"Frankly, if souls can spend eternity without wanting to go back and help out others in achieving the spiritual purity needed to enter this "paradice" of yours, they are hardly good, would you dissagree?"

"There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."

(I have been doing the opposite. The ones I like I use titles, as a sign of respect, the ones I don't I use their real name )

"Angel."

(I see you quite respect my angel, then. )

"If it was so perfect, then why did he only allow such a small percentage of it?"

"So that your system of reincarnation and soul-spawning wouldn't get messed up. If he let in too many people, less people would be born and you and the other gods would get angry. He tried remaking the reincarnation system so that no one had to go with less but then he realised ((the GM announced)) that it would've messed up the system anyway. So he dropped it and did the best he could with what he had."

[Stirk]

"So that your system of reincarnation and soul-spawning wouldn't get messed up. If he let in too many people, less people would be born and you and the other gods would get angry. He tried remaking the reincarnation system so that no one had to go with less but then he realised ((the GM announced)) that it would've messed up the system anyway. So he dropped it and did the best he could with what he had."

"Don't pretend to understand it. I happen to know that he had an entire plane dedicated to torching his own followers for no reason. If he had such a problem with it, he could have taken some of the souls there back to the planets and gotten his own souls. Besides that point, nobody cares if Yaos takes all his followers away. If all of Yaos's followers had disappeared, nobody would have cared."

[gman8181]

I thank you...I apologize for having confused you. Hunger and Greed are not so dissimilar, though they relate to different things. But that does not excuse my mistake. I hope you will forgive me; I have been...troubled, lately, and my focus is split at the moment between a great many things.

I must ask, though, Hunger, what happens to those souls the dragon consumes?

If I have it right, the soul is that which gives someone uniqueness and identity, yes? Was...was that lost?

Honest mistake. I hold no contempt towards you for that.

Regarding souls, I'm not sure. I've never myself consumed souls before and I was unaware that the dragon could or would. I simply ordered it to attack the Empire's forces.
If I were to speculate, I'd say that as all things are made of essence, the Dragon used what it absorbed as a source of empowerment.
If others are particularly interested, I might consider looking into if their souls can be returned but I would assume it is a situation similar to what happened when Yaos's direct essence was taken away. In effect, they likely cannot be brought back.
That said, while it wasn't my intention, neither am I the type to lament the unintended actions of the past. It is done and I will learn from what happened and respect your request for more future consideration on the Dragon's use but I will not dwell on it in guilt.

Tory: "Not just those that worshipped him, but also those who were good in life. If they were good in life and worshipped Yaos, they got eternal paradise. If they were evil and worshipped him, they were punished for a while and then sent to reincarnate. Yaos was doing Good regarding souls way before Darruth showed up, and is still doing so after death, if you ask me. Grauel's worse than a normal genocider because he not only murdered hundreds of thousands, but he's also preventing reincarnation for those who were morally neutral and eternal paradise for those who were Good."

Keep prodding about it and see just how bad I can really be. I called off my attack out of respect and because I considered the damage to mortals unnecessary. That said, it would be an easy matter for me to exterminate the rest of Yaos's angels without any further harm to mortals should you all continue to annoy me. I have no intention of sitting idly while you try and antagonize me in the eyes of the others. If I'm going to be antagonized, I might as well finish the job and look like a bad guy instead of not finishing it and looking like a bad guy.

Edit:
(The moons might have been a silly reason to attack but it wasn't just the moons. There were numerous instances of stuff like that happening and the moons were literally just the last straw. Grauel was breaking down from seeing someone try and claim all that stuff. The Hunger aspect of his sphere is somewhat similar to Yaos's Ambition and Azem's Greed. Except I try and play it out differently like Grauel literally hungers for stuff rather than just wanting it or being ambitious about getting stuff. So effectively it was like someone who is constantly excessively eating in front of a starving person who's trying not to antagonize others by taking too much. Finally the hungry guy snaps and decides to just start taking more food from the other guy eating too much. That's my weird analogy for it.)

[DreamerGhost]

"Frankly, if souls can spend eternity without wanting to go back and help out others in achieving the spiritual purity needed to enter this "paradice" of yours, they are hardly good, would you dissagree?"

"There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."

"I have nothing against rewarding good, neither I feel that demanding good would be required. But this system flat out denies the chance of those who desire to continue their efforts. I have created an afterlife that preserves all that one has made during their lifetimes to be used as they will, and gave them ability to raise goals for themselves in the next life as a bonus. A system that allows both to enjoy afterlife and go out again if you desire. It would not be difficult to add reincarnation at will to Yaos system"

[Andres]

@Grauel: "Alright alright. Consider the matter dropped."

@Khaziraad: "You have a good point there. If Yaos had thought of it, he might've changed it. He's not a god of Good, though. He didn't know everything there was to Good. As far as he knew of Good, he was being as good as he possibly could. I apologise on his behalf for not knowing better."

"With all that said, is anyone looking for mercenary work from Elite Team Yaos? We accept payment in shinies, equipment, power, Essence orbs - those exist, right? - artifacts, passports, and anything else you might think of. Food and water is the only obvious exception."

[Rolepgeek]

"There are many facets and angels to Good. Good is, ironically, not black-and white. Yaos was of the belief that Good should be rewarded for its work with no conditions that more Good is made. She believed that Evil should be punished for its work with no conditions that more Evil be made. More good - more reward. More evil - more punishment. He felt this was fair and that it was as good as she could make it. Darruth wasn't around to advise him on the creation of the system and she received no complaints from him when he was around."

I've been rather preoccupied, not to mention I had no idea there was a Shadow Realm...souls in my afterlife are 'punished' only in the sense that they are shown the results of their actions; if those actions were Good, the results will typically be Good. If they were Evil, the results will often induce guilt and sorrow in the soul, which serves to help them understand better what causes Good and what causes Evil. Yes, eventually they are so Good that they may rest if they wish to, but unsurprisingly, those souls that have reached near-perfect Goodness wish to help others reach the same, and so they do not wish for paradise; they wish for work.

Also, to be fair, Fusil, I would care if his followers disappeared. That many people missing would damage the worlds' economic balance, and I would lose the opportunity to convert them to Goodness. I'm having remarkable success among the humans. It pleases me.

(I've never really used it, but I had the idea that all gods Azem doesn't like, Fusil and Cim mostly, he doesn't bother to use their names and just uses their spheres or titles.)

((D: Azem doesn't like me? But...but...))

I would be willing to hire you, but I'm afraid the only thing we have to offer at the moment is goodwill and the magic of mortals. Essence is slow to come, recently.

[Vgray]

@Grauel: "Alright alright. Consider the matter dropped."

@Khaziraad: "You have a good point there. If Yaos had thought of it, he might've changed it. He's not a god of Good, though. He didn't know everything there was to Good. As far as he knew of Good, he was being as good as he possibly could. I apologise on his behalf for not knowing better."

"With all that said, is anyone looking for mercenary work from Elite Team Yaos? We accept payment in shinies, equipment, power, Essence orbs - those exist, right? - artifacts, passports, and anything else you might think of. Food and water is the only obvious exception."

"The protection of a god isn't enough payment?"

[Stirk]

"With all that said, is anyone looking for mercenary work from Elite Team Yaos? We accept payment in shinies, equipment, power, Essence orbs - those exist, right? - artifacts, passports, and anything else you might think of. Food and water is the only obvious exception."

"...What exactly do you plan on doing? Nobody is in any open conflicts, and we are currently quite capable of fighting off any mortal threats. Your god is dead, you cannot bring him back like this. Just retire, go under the shield of a new god, and become their knights. This will not end well for you."

[Kilojoule Proton]

Tick 43: Rebirth and ruin

The Light has created a few elephants that are easily angered by violence. This will likely tend to result in a chain reaction of goring and trampling, so they don't really differ from regular elephants much beyond their color.

The Angel of the North is currently touring with a band of traveling Rani and Shadow Ravens. These are a few prayers directed to Neron:
"Can you make it so that Ice Titans spread icy landscape where they roam?"
"Sculptures are boring. What other forms of art can I make with ice?"
"Every time I try to use healing magic on someone, the someone gets even worse."

A number of Golems have been sent to rebuild the remnants of the Human Imperial capital. Some prayers addressed to Khaziraad include the following:
"How might I bind and confine an angel to a structure?"
"The Humans Seem To Be Getting Sick When Our Coworker Made Of Fibrous Rock Stays For Too Long. What Could Be Causing This?"
"I wish I could work on the great castles like the more famous Gremlins."

Serac listens and hears the following prayers:
Ritan: "I found a massive pearl today. What should I do with it?"
Sorae: "I wish these turtles could move faster."
Ritan: "May you bless my son, who will be in a rayce tomorrow!"

Fusil has requested that an angel of the late Yaos stop communicating with the Council.

Vaal has been transformed into Vaaliel.

(Tomorrow's update may also end up late)

This update's constellations are the Dagger and Sword. A comet has been sighted.

Spoiler: Features (too outdated to show, will probably update by T37) (click to show/hide)

Skyfeatures: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144704.msg5731808#msg5731808 (maintained by Happerry/Anath)
Bestiary: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5779202;topicseen#msg5779202 (maintained by Andres/Yaos)

Spoiler: Deities (+0) (click to show/hide)

Cim the Lawgiver (Order, Law): 10/27, 8-9
Varee (Randomness): 23/23, 2-3
Fusil (Weapons): 10/14, 7-8
Azem (Greed, Trade): 32/32, 6-7
Khaziraad (Architecture): 7/25, 4-5
Kli (Balance, Sacrifice): 13/23, 4-5
Grauel (Hunger): 27/27, 10-11
Serac (Oceans, Bubbles): 11/27, 4-5
The Light (Light): 32/32, 5-6
Yaos (Humans, Ambition): -2/5, 8-9
Joha (Life): 12/20, 3-4
Carmine (Exploration, Science): 20/20, 0-1
Taol (Freedom): 19/20, 2-3
Neron (Ice): 13/20, 3-4
Darruth (Goodness): 10/20, 7-8

Anath (Night, Stars): 23/23, 6-7 (Safe stasis)
Artisanii (Arts, Inspiration): 24/24, 2-3 (Sealed away)

Chyribylta (Fear, Ignorance): 20/20, 0-1 (Safe stasis)

Spoiler: Council rules (+1) (click to show/hide)

These are all subject to addition, removal, and change by you. They can effect changes in the game's core rules (mechanics), administrative laws (voting requirements, seniority privilegs, &c.) or the natural rules (light does not exist, gravity is repulsive, giant animals can fly like birds, &c.).
Administrative:
An active player is defined as a player who has posted within the thread within the last two (2) UTC days.

A bill must be supported by at least 50% of active players to pass if unopposed.

A bill must achieve 60% support in order to pass if opposed.

Players may flame the host if he has been inactive for at least two (2) UTC days.

Council resolutions will not be counted until at least a major tick has passed.

Council-produced creations are not to be tampered with without council approval. Failure to comply will result in the automated initiation of a trial.

03.01: Only deities supporting a proposal enter the Essence pool

04.03: Remove proposals stagnant for 3 ticks or double opposed to supported for 1 tick <0>

Proposals at [IMMINENT PASS] will pass immediately if 80% of the Support or Oppose votes are Support votes.

34.05: A trial will end after 2 integer ticks (from Tx to Tx+2) with votes tallied based solely on support and opposition. Conflict results in comparing support and opposition.

Starter Code of Conduct:
I. Thou Shall Not Cause Megadeaths Or Extinction Events
II. Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God
III. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You
IV. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods
V. Thou Shall Not Break The Universe

35.01: Arrange for a Void study committee
36.00.1: Trials held for assault, murder, or attempted murder last only for a tick (4-2/15) [EXTEND TO T42] [PASSED]

Natural:
02.00.b: Created race(s) is not/are not all immortal <?>
02.01.a: Sapients and not sentients are the dominant mortals to be created <?>
02.02: Support reincarnation in general <0-1>
02.02.1: Support looped reincarnation (i.e. between two worlds)
02.04: Create a spirit and a corporeal realm <48/77, (6-7/11-15)>
02.04.1: Bifurcate corporeal realm <6-7 (0-1)>
03.06: Make constellations without needing council permission
02.01.a.2: Support free will for mortals <0>
03.04.1: 03.04 for first two planets <0>
03.00: Build 3 million sapient humanoids evenly split between Material World 1 and Material World
02.03: Create up to ~30 total immortal, godinalized servants <13-14 (3-4)>
02.04.3: Support further amendment to Valkiss' proposal <?>
03.06.1: Make magical constellations that influence magic on the worlds
03.09: Name the two partitions Keshan and Slytha
04.01: Create grand ecumenical temples for every race <High 3-4>
12.01: Anath's five-part starter code of conduct
18.01: Create monstrous flora and fauna <?>

21.00: Make a gas giant for each system <15-16 (2-3)>
24.00: Create the Plane of Death and Battle <1-2 (0-1)>

35.00: Put constellations in order and in a cycle as opposed to randomly
35.01: Arrange for a Void study committee
40.00: New races must not be negatively acted upon from the mortals' perspective for at least 3 ticks (7-0/15) [PASSED]

Spoiler: Council proposals (7) (click to show/hide)

39.00: Confiscate the metal egg (to Council) (4-1/15) [IMMINENT DEATH]
+4 from Yaos, Khaziraad, Darrutha, Taol
-1 from Serac

39.01: Give egg to Neron (1-2/15) [IMMINENT DEATH]
+1 from Neron
-2 from Yaos, Taol, Darruth

39.02: Create Council security to uphold Council law with no loyalty to any gods (3-4/15) <?> [IMMINENT DEATH]
+3 from Azem, Khaziraad, The Light
0 from Joha
-3 from Yaos, Taol, Fusil, Darruth

41.00: Create spirits for various things (e.g. rivers, mountains, forests) (5-1/15) <?>
+5 from Yaos, Khaziraad, Varee, Neron, The Light
-1 from Fusil

41.01: Confiscate the Essence Dragon (2-3/15)
+2 from Yaos, Neron
-3 from Grauel, Fusil, Darruth

41.05: Create the Prison Keeper, a being who will punish gods trying to kill gods (3-2/15) <?>
+3 from Neron, Yaos, The Light
-1 from Fusil, Darruth

Spoiler: New Proposals (0) (click to show/hide)

Array

Spoiler: 21.00 Gas giant ideas (Created; details phase?) (3) (click to show/hide)

21.00.1: Both gas giants are Jupiter-sized and have 30 major moons each (4-0/5) <+5 (+0-+1)> [PASSED]

21.00.2: 15 of each of the gas giant's moons should be barren and the other 15 should be made hospitable <6-8E>
+1 from Yaos

21.00.3: 5 of each of the gas giants' moons should be made hospitable <3-4E>
+1 from Yaos

New players are always welcome. Sphere ideas this tick are Thundre, Children, Earth, and Air.

[Andres]

Also, to be fair, Fusil, I would care if his followers disappeared. That many people missing would damage the worlds' economic balance, and I would lose the opportunity to convert them to Goodness. I'm having remarkable success among the humans. It pleases me.

"Hey! Leave Yaos' followers alone! If they want to worship a dead god, that's their choice! You don't just get to split them up and take them for yourself! This is where I'd expect Fusil to interject, but I'd like to remind him that when he was dead HIS followers weren't split up and shared between the remaining gods! They were still allowed to worship Fusil, and they weren't even discouraged in doing so!"

I would be willing to hire you, but I'm afraid the only thing we have to offer at the moment is goodwill and the magic of mortals. Essence is slow to come, recently.

"We can help build temples and spread your name if you want. You're the god of Good, so I think we can work out a payment later."

"The protection of a god isn't enough payment?"

Lette has been struck down!

"Apparently not. Speaking of which, I'd like to ask a question. Can a god destroy or bypass the physical/natural laws of a Council-made plane with no negative repercussions, somehow?"

((Was ninja'd. Will respond to the update soonish.))

[DreamerGhost]

I may have a job for your grou, but first I neef to check if the thing I would offer you is still there.
Check if Puzzle boxes have bern looted allready.

(Ninjas)

They are angels created by god of humans, not god of good. If this was a matter concernig humans, they would work for free as they did unde Yaos and as all of our angels do.