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[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

How many of us here find the God of Weapons behavior either distasteful, worrying, or insulting?

I do. Well, more tiring and annoying, but yes.

[Rolepgeek]

I was referring to the Angels of Yaos, who I asked not to answer, as I figured they would try to do so on behalf of their late lord.

You may answer or not as you please. But it pertains to you, and perceptions of you, so it's rather pointless to do so.

[Andres]

"Not all weapon users worship me, they would not have likely attempted to murder me if that was so. The Ikaku might very well be the same that attacked me. So why should I not, at the very least, destroy the Paladin? As immortals, the surviving ones likely had a hand in my death."

"Well I don't know about all weapon users, but all Paladins certainly do. The entire point of the mission wasn't to kill you - it was to kill or disable your angels in order to prevent you from killing gods when you got out. We tried to ensure your safety by moving you to the Death Battle Plane but that plan fell through when Tory was imprisoned by the Council."
Tory: "It's all true. I was there."
"I, representing the Yaosian forces in the assault, would like to extend a formal apology for being unable to protect your life."
"The mercenaries we are hiring right now are absolutely not the same ones that attacked you. If they were, we'd fire them and hire ones that weren't part of the attack. But they're not, so we won't."

Battle Plan of the Yaosian Forces during the Assault

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Paladins will tie Fusil's regular angels down.
The Ikakus will fire on the regulars once they've been tied down.
While the regulars are busy, the Emperor, Lette, and Vaal will attack Tykki.
Half of Yaos' regular angels will fight STF's regulars and the other half will fight Tykki.
The Jumper Angel will teleport Fusil to the DEATH BATTLE Plane.
Once one of the targets is defeated, the attacking force that defeated said target will help the other attackers with their target.
Cim and Serac's forces will do whatever.

[IcyTea31]

How many of us here find the God of Weapons behavior either distasteful, worrying, or insulting?

"I dare say I do. He is hypocritical, patronizing and arrogant. Let me argue these points, as in a proper debate: he is hypocritical, because he doesn't want any rules or laws, wanting to do as he will; however, if someone else tries to do as they will, even if it's something Fusil would do, he tries to bring up the rules and complain to the Council."

"He is patronizing, insulting those who disagree with him and dismissing them instead of forming proper arguments. "I am an elder god who can totally destroy you in a fight, so you should do as I say without question" isn't very logical, considering a God's age has no causation with their ability to fight nor to be correct. "

"This also strikes as arrogant. A God of Weapons can certainly be usually correct about weaponry, but not necessarily about other subjects. Nodding slightly to the hypocrisy argument, he seems to believe a lawless system to be the best, and refuses to budge even though its flaws have been pointed out multiple times. Sometimes, one needs to compromise or even completely turn around in one's opinion."

"Clearly, Fusil should learn more about and practice debating and even basic logic."

"One could argue these points would also apply to me, and perhaps to some extent they do, but at least I say every equal being should follow the same rules, and I deem myself equal with any other God, and I either argue or ignore insults instead of overreacting and threatening to destroy whoever crossed me (at least not right away)."

[Kilojoule Proton]

Tick 50: Cycles

Famous Hummingbird: "The point of this little contest is that you decide who is best too."

(The ten megabeasts have eluded description for the few years they have existed. Most of the stories passed around are mutually contradictory but definitely focus on their danger.)

(Proposals extended)

Fusil has attempted and failed to steal the Strange Knife.

The Keshan Human Empire has formed a council to help Vaal and the other angels run the empire. The Inquisition has been replaced with the Empire Void Annihilation Corps, which the gods suspect is simply a renamed inquisition.

The Shiny Ones have made jewelry and new clothes for Lette and Vaal.

Grauel has placed Lette and Vaal under protection for two ticks (until T51 or T52?) while they work to cover their end of the deal provided that neither of them aggress. They have almost completed their end of the deal.

The Mumans have begun attempting to access metals on their own. Many die from the deathly dangerous conditions of their first mines, and little metal can be found in the very low-density upper layers. Some concerned Armu issue a warning that conditions within are very dangerous without adequate protection.

The Imperial Cavalry has slaughtered many bandits. Roadside lawmancer activity increases sharply. The Imperial Army and Humanos destroy the remnants of the stoNe waRRioRs. The Council of Humans proposes splitting the Empire or delegating control downward to maximize efficiency. ISAY continues work as instructed. The Paladins train in the corporeal dimension. Temples to Yaos and Azem have been refurbished. Temples within the Empire seem not to contain Void worshippers on first inspection. Vaal has adopted a random Human orphan born under the Crown who seems to be good and sports an above-average number of face tentacles. Ikaku mercenaries attempt to train the Paladins and Human army in chi techniques. The Imperial palace has been warded by an angel of Yaos.


This update's constellations are the Human and Pentagram.

Spoiler: Features (too outdated to show, will probably update by T37) (click to show/hide)

Skyfeatures: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144704.msg5731808#msg5731808 (maintained by Happerry/Anath)
Bestiary: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=144651.msg5779202;topicseen#msg5779202 (maintained by Andres/Yaos)

Spoiler: Deities (0) (click to show/hide)

Cim the Lawgiver (Order, Law): 26/27, 9-10
Varee (Randomness): 27/27, 3-4
Fusil (Weapons): 16/16, 7-8
Azem (Greed, Trade): 17/33, 6-7
Khaziraad (Architecture): 15/25, 4-5
Kli (Balance, Sacrifice): 25/25, 5-6
Grauel (Hunger): 30/30, 11-12
Serac (Oceans, Bubbles): 18/27, 6-7
The Light (Light): 35/35, 5-6
Joha (Life): 19/20, 3-4
Carmine (Exploration, Science): 20/20, 1-2
Neron (Ice): 16/20, 4-5
Darruth (Goodness, Protection): 13/20, 7-8

Taol (Freedom): 20/20, 2-3 (Inactive)
Anath (Night, Stars): 23/23, 6-7 (Safe stasis)
Artisanii (Arts, Inspiration): 24/24, 2-3 (Sealed away)

Spoiler: Council rules (click to show/hide)

These are all subject to addition, removal, and change by you. They can effect changes in the game's core rules (mechanics), administrative laws (voting requirements, seniority privilegs, &c.) or the natural rules (light does not exist, gravity is repulsive, giant animals can fly like birds, &c.).
`Administrative:
An active player is defined as a player who has posted within the thread within the last two (2) UTC days.

A bill must be supported by at least 50% of active players to pass if unopposed.

A bill must achieve 60% support in order to pass if opposed.

Players may flame the host if he has been inactive for at least two (2) UTC days.

Council resolutions will not be counted until at least a major tick has passed.

Council-produced creations are not to be tampered with without council approval. Failure to comply will result in the automated initiation of a trial.

03.01: Only deities supporting a proposal enter the Essence pool

04.03: Remove proposals stagnant for 3 ticks or double opposed to supported for 1 tick <0>

Proposals at [IMMINENT PASS] will pass immediately if 80% of the Support or Oppose votes are Support votes.

34.05: A trial will end after 2 integer ticks (from Tx to Tx+2) with votes tallied based solely on support and opposition. Conflict results in comparing support and opposition.

Starter Code of Conduct:
I. Thou Shall Not Cause Megadeaths Or Extinction Events
II. Thou Shall Not Seek the Death of Another God
III. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals To Worship You
IV. Thou Shall Not Force Mortals Not To Worship Other Gods
V. Thou Shall Not Break The Universe

35.01: Arrange for a Void study committee
36.00.1: Trials held for assault, murder, or attempted murder last only for a tick (4-2/13) [EXTEND TO T42] [PASSED]

Natural:
02.00.b: Created race(s) is not/are not all immortal <?>
02.01.a: Sapients and not sentients are the dominant mortals to be created <?>
02.02: Support reincarnation in general <0-1>
02.02.1: Support looped reincarnation (i.e. between two worlds)
02.04: Create a spirit and a corporeal realm <48/77, (6-7/11-13)>
02.04.1: Bifurcate corporeal realm <6-7 (0-1)>
03.06: Make constellations without needing council permission
02.01.a.2: Support free will for mortals <0>
03.04.1: 03.04 for first two planets <0>
03.00: Build 3 million sapient humanoids evenly split between Material World 1 and Material World
02.03: Create up to ~30 total immortal, godinalized servants <13-14 (3-4)>
02.04.3: Support further amendment to Valkiss' proposal <?>
03.06.1: Make magical constellations that influence magic on the worlds
03.09: Name the two partitions Keshan and Slytha
04.01: Create grand ecumenical temples for every race <High 3-4>
12.01: Anath's five-part starter code of conduct
18.01: Create monstrous flora and fauna <?>

21.00: Make a gas giant for each system <15-16 (2-3)>
24.00: Create the Plane of Death and Battle <1-2 (0-1)>

35.00: Put constellations in order and in a cycle as opposed to randomly
35.01: Arrange for a Void study committee
40.00: New races must not be negatively acted upon from the mortals' perspective for at least 3 ticks (7-0/13) [PASSED]

43.01: Refill the Library's supply of Void books (7-1/13)

Spoiler: Council proposals (7) (click to show/hide)

43.00: Change Azem's primary sphere to Wealth (4-1/13) [EXTEND TO T53]
+4 from Grauel, Carmine, Darruth, Neron
-1 from Yaos

44.03: Charge at most current Essence less 2 for supporters of proposals (6-0/13) [EXTEND TO T53]
+6 from Yaos, Joha, Darruth, Cim, Serac, Neron

44.04: Propagate automatically to 2500 for races at least a tick old (4-0/13) <!?> [EXTEND TO T53]
+4 from Yaos, Joha, Darruth
0 from Cim

47.00: Open a Void hotline to Mgaareecaalwahiisnshyzhrshui for the Council (3-2/13)
+3 from Cim, Neron, Carmine
0 from Joha
-2 from Yaos, Fusil

47.01: Close and lock all communication with Void Beings (2-4/13)
+2 from Yaos, Fusil
0 from Joha
-4 from Cim, Neron, Darruth, Carmine

49.00: Mute the godless angels (1-0/13)
+1 from Neron

Spoiler: New Proposals (0) (click to show/hide)

49.00: Mute the godless angels (1-0/13)
+1 from Neron

Spoiler: 21.00 Gas giant ideas (Created; details phase?) (3) (click to show/hide)

21.00.1: Both gas giants are Jupiter-sized and have 30 major moons each (4-0/5) <+5 (+0-+1)> [PASSED]

21.00.2: 15 of each of the gas giant's moons should be barren and the other 15 should be made hospitable <6-8E>
+1 from Yaos

21.00.3: 5 of each of the gas giants' moons should be made hospitable <3-4E>
+1 from Yaos

`
New players are always welcome. Sphere ideas this tick are Happiness, Moon, Magic, and Travel.

[DreamerGhost]

Face tentacles? Is that how you call hair or will I be unmaking a city?

[Andres]

Lette and Vaal really like their new clothes. They're just flamboyant enough to accentuate their badassery more than draw away from it.

I scan the boy with the VDD. Maybe he's simply of Armu descent? Harmu? Humu? Arman? Arman. How old's the boy?

Healing agents and magic are sent to the Mumans, as well as the technologies to create protective wear. All Mumans currently sick or injured are healed. The Armu are thanked for their concern and are hired to help provide technological solutions to the problems facing the project. Until proper technological and logistical problems are pre-resolved, the project will remain closed.

The Imperial Army will secure trade routes outside of the Empire, but not inside of anyone else's territory without permission.

Dwarven-quality armour is bought for both the Order of Yaosian Paladins and EVAC.

The Human Council members are permitted to *shiver* expand the bureaucracy. A day of mourning is held.

Face tentacles? Is that how you call hair or will I be unmaking a city?

"Isn't there a rule against megadeaths? Also, are you really gonna pick on a kid just because he has a few face tentacles? It's not his fault, and it doesn't make him any less of a person. I mean really."

As the Human constellation is active, a festival is held in honour of Yaos, the various peoples of the Empire, the late Angel-Emperor of Mankind, and to the continual advancement of Humanity.

[DreamerGhost]

Tentacles are one of sidefects of excecive void influence. Last time void gave us stone men whom destroyed several cities. Just some preventive measures here.

[Andres]

"May I remind you that Fusil is also heavily associated with tentacles? There are literally millions of tentacle creatures that he himself created and that's not even mentioning that pony, tentacle-mouth....thing he created so long ago. Maybe he's simply descended from the Armu?"
"Even if it was the Void, I highly doubt that his tentacles are the result of him worshipping the Void. More likely he simply had less than ideal parents or was kidnapped by cultists to be experimented on or something. If so, then killing him won't solve anything or even prevent anything."

[DreamerGhost]

The diference between Humans and Armu is that Humans are not suposed to have tentacles. And if the kid has nothing to do with this, and the tentacles are there becouse of void cult experiements, or his parents were void mutants, then the city has some serious cult related problems. Either way, it is a situation that deserves investigation and resolving. I don't exactly do "subtle", so if you don't feel like this is at all alarming then I will have the area purged.

[Vgray]

"And this is why I'm glad the Mountwyrm cults self-regulate."

[gman8181]

Grauel laughs at the hummingbird
There is a time and a place for flaunting power and trying to prove oneself to be superior. I don't particularly view this as such a situation. Perhaps you should just pick someone to follow or not follow any one at all. I don't see many of us exhibiting any serious desire to try and prove superiority in this case.

Besides superiority is relative and in many cases susceptible to personal views.

(They have until T52)

[Andres]

"I honestly don't get you people. First I disband an organisation that did extremely well in putting down Void cults, but you made me shut it down because a few innocent people were hurt along the way. Now you want to glass an entire city full of innocent people just because of one child. That's plain hypocrisy."
"Now, I can either reinstitute the Inquisition in full to have them deal with the possibly large amount of Void cults - and that's assuming the boy's not merely an isolated incident, OR I can leave it as it is now and have EVAC continue working on eliminating Void cults in a more selective fashion than the Inquisition."

if you don't feel like this is at all alarming then I will have the area purged.

"I find this alarming."

[Rolepgeek]

Make the merfolk with the people who agreed to, since we all did. Sea-people, able to go onto land for short periods of time without suffocating, webbed hands, tails for swimming instead of legs, beautiful scales, aligned towards Good, Wealth(if Azem gets around to getting his sphere changed), Water(duh), Ice, and Life. Yeah.

Check out the Good cities, see how my people are getting along, check on my prophet, check on my Book of Divine Truth, check out the church structure, get to making stuff a bit more organized, maybe with Cim's help if he agrees.

Khaziraad, I have a request. As my spheres now include protection, I would be willing to help make your archangel even more durable, if you were to help me in constructing cathedrals and other grand pieces of architecture within my cities, and for my followers. As well, I would ask for your help and Azem's, with a different race project of mine. However, I ask this as a favor, and would owe you both a favor, if you were to assist; this is not the altruistic co-operation of race creation I asked of for the merfolk. You do not even have to donate more than a single Essence(as I doubt the desire I ask of you would be possible were you to donate less than that), but I would ask for your expertise in your given fields. You see, I wish to make a race of engineers, artisans, and craftspeople, as well as armorsmiths. I feel that your expertise with construction, Khaziraad, and your expertise with trade, quality manufacture, and merchanting, Azem, would aid me greatly in this endeavor. Would you be so kind?

[Vgray]

"I believe I've made a decision, I will change my primary sphere. I believe you wanted my sphere of Greed Grauel, interpreted as Desire?"