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[Parsely]

Actually, given the resource situation, it would be probably better to primarily rely on ballistics as a matter of resource conservation. Sure, it may hurt our AA and air-to-air capabilities, but if we get that AMS system done the enemy will be mostly wasting their own at us

That's what I said. When it comes to artillery it's cheaper to bombard with pinpoint aimed shells as opposed to rockets.

[evilcherry]

Just want to talk about the pistol, not really interested in veering the main armament plans.

Spoiler: Pistol (click to show/hide)

Cheap: (Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Reliable: (akkudakku, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Easily Disassembled: (akkudakku, evilcherry)
Remarkably accurate:  (UR, Taricus, Stirk, Hawk132)
Heavy punch: (akkudakku, UR, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Happerry)
Lightweight:  (UR, Beneviento)
Inconspicuous: (AseaHeru)
3D-Printed (Tremendously lowers production cost, at the effect of quality): ( )

Cheap, reliable and Easily Disassembled. If you need the punch of a handgun then you are in deep trouble. And given the geometries of the handgun, a powerful cartridge means you only has one shot before you need to move your firing location.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Voted for 4, 5, 16

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz". (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor,UR)
6:Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found.  Reduce the armor to 300mm. ( )
-6.1: Redesigned badger(longer). (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7:Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break. ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
-8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank. (akkudakku, Beneviento)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor. (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system. (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets. (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles. ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting. (Alamoes, Happerry,UR)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)
A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits). (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol). (akkudakku, Stirk)

[Parsely]

Vote 1, 8, 9, 16 and C

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz" (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, UR)
6: Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found, reduce the armor to 300mm ( )
   -6.1: Redesigned badger (longer) (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7: Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor, GUNINANRUNIN)
   -8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank (akkudakku, Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting (Alamoes, Happerry, UR, GUNINANRUNIN)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)

A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits) (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol) (akkudakku, Stirk, GUNINANRUNIN)

[Aseaheru]

Looks like this is near the end for this batch of votes, Im just gonna put everything together in one post because reasons...

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR, AseaHeru)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz" (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, UR, AseaHeru)
6: Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found, reduce the armor to 300mm ( )
   -6.1: Redesigned badger (longer) (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7: Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor, GUNINANRUNIN)
   -8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank (akkudakku, Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting (Alamoes, Happerry, UR, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)

A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits) (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol) (akkudakku, Stirk, GUNINANRUNIN)

Spoiler: Pistol (click to show/hide)

Cheap: (Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Reliable: (akkudakku, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Easily Disassembled: (akkudakku, evilcherry)
Remarkably accurate:  (UR, Taricus, Stirk, Hawk132)
Heavy punch: (akkudakku, UR, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Happerry)
Lightweight:  (UR, Beneviento)
Inconspicuous: (AseaHeru)
3D-Printed (Tremendously lowers production cost, at the effect of quality): ( )

Hey, what did we go with for the names anyways?

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Oh. One more vote for 1

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru, UR)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR, AseaHeru)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz" (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, UR, AseaHeru)
6: Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found, reduce the armor to 300mm ( )
   -6.1: Redesigned badger (longer) (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7: Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor, GUNINANRUNIN)
   -8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank (akkudakku, Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting (Alamoes, Happerry, UR, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)

A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits) (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol) (akkudakku, Stirk, GUNINANRUNIN)

Spoiler: Pistol (click to show/hide)

Cheap: (Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Reliable: (akkudakku, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry)
Easily Disassembled: (akkudakku, evilcherry)
Remarkably accurate:  (UR, Taricus, Stirk, Hawk132)
Heavy punch: (akkudakku, UR, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Happerry)
Lightweight:  (UR, Beneviento)
Inconspicuous: (AseaHeru)
3D-Printed (Tremendously lowers production cost, at the effect of quality): ( )

[Khaiel]

Updated with my votes

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru, UR)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, Khaiel)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR, AseaHeru)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz" (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, UR, AseaHeru)
6: Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found, reduce the armor to 300mm ( )
   -6.1: Redesigned badger (longer) (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7: Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel)
   -8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank (akkudakku, Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting (Alamoes, Happerry, UR, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)

A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits) (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol) (akkudakku, Stirk, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel)

Spoiler: Pistol (click to show/hide)

Cheap: (Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry, Khaiel)
Reliable: (akkudakku, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, Happerry, evilcherry, Khaiel)
Easily Disassembled: (akkudakku, evilcherry)
Remarkably accurate:  (UR, Taricus, Stirk, Hawk132)
Heavy punch: (akkudakku, UR, Taricus, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Happerry, Khaiel)
Lightweight:  (UR, Beneviento)
Inconspicuous: (AseaHeru)
3D-Printed (Tremendously lowers production cost, at the effect of quality): ( )

[Taricus]

Alright, one more proposal from me.

Proposal Alpha: Due to the resource-intensive nature of missile weapons, a full moratorium is put on their development in an effort to preserve resources that could be put to use in other units.

Spoiler: Votes (click to show/hide)

1. Design medium full body armor named MFB, based on LFB. Increase the weight to 18 kg and try to fix the fragility issue. (Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru, UR)
2. Finish the 120mm tank gun. (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, Khaiel)
3. Design a wheeled tank destroyer Wolverine armed with the the 120mm gun. (AseaHeru, Happerry)
4. Design an universal tactical helmet "Watcher". (akkudakku, UR, AseaHeru)
5. Design man portable surface to air missile launcher "Jazz" (akkudakku, Happerry, GentlemanRaptor, UR, AseaHeru)
6: Design Badger A chassis that is designed to be the fix for the mechanical problems found, reduce the armor to 300mm ( )
   -6.1: Redesigned badger (longer) (Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
7: Redesign the 1100 Kw engine to be more fuel efficient, and easier to fix in case of a break ( )
8. Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle in a way that will allow to retroactively fix the already produced samples (akkudakku, AseaHeru, Stirk, Hawk132, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel, Taricus)
   -8.1 Hammer out the faults in the 6.8mm bullpup rifle, make it longer (Taricus, Hawk132)
9. Hammer out the faults in the Badger tank (akkudakku, Beneviento, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel, Taricus)
10. Hammer out the faults in the Lightweight Body Armor (akkudakku, Taricus, Alamoes, Hawk132)
11. Anti-missile system (Taricus, Hawk132)
12. SAW (Stirk, Beneviento)
13. DMR (Stirk, Alamoes, Beneviento, GentlemanRaptor)
14. Design a powerful ship-mounted radar capable of tracking missiles from a reasonable distance as well a surface targets (Happerry)
15. Start designing a missile capable of being installed into VLS and tracking multiple targets, including other missiles ()
16. Start prototyping a 90mm electric railgun capable of both ship and land mounting (Alamoes, Happerry, UR, GUNINANRUNIN, AseaHeru)
17: Design Man-Portable Ordnance Delivery System (MPODS) Model 1 "Chameleon" (Beneviento, Happerry)

A. Produce 1140 basic infantry kits (assault rifle + pistol + LFB armor). (AseaHeru)
B. Build a small arms factory (armor+rifle+pistol kits) (akkudakku, Beneviento)
C. Build a national engineering academy, use the work units overflow to produce infantry kits (armor+rifle+pistol) (akkudakku, Stirk, GUNINANRUNIN, Khaiel)

Alpha: Moratorium on missiles (Taricus)

[Parsely]

I don't think that's necessary. No one's really voting for missiles right now anyways.

[Taricus]

...You haven't seen five then, have you?

[Aseaheru]

What do you propose to shoot down the many, many aircraft that would turn us into dust when people attack us?

[Happerry]

Can you anti vote stuff? Because I am against Proposal Alpha.

We might not need lots of missile right now, but they're still some of the best long ranged anti air, anti ship, and anti structure weapons we can get. They outrange artillery, they can home in on targets, they can be made in disposable one shot forms that we can easily give to the troops... (Much easier then an anti tank rifle, at least.)

Missiles are good, and abandoning them is stupid, even if we have reasons not to build many on these first turns.

[Parsely]

I can understand not wanting to waste money on lots of large, expensive warhead delivery systems like cruise missiles but having no guided AA at all is stupid. You can't shoot down modern military jet planes with AAA.

[tryrar]

Well, if the railgun we're working on works out, then you DO have a very cheap answer to missiles, as the ability to hurl inert hunks of metal at around mach 7 for over 100 miles is very efficient way to destroy stuff(including missiles!)

[Parsely]

We don't know if it'll work to specification just yet, and the current design is also a 90mm. You can't carry that. We need man-portable missiles for AT and AA capability on the frontline. Once we have railguns surely we could partially phase out emplaced AA missile defenses, but missiles are just so good for so many different things that it's an awful idea to restrict their development entirely.