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[Illgeo]

Well, it just a feel. Mostly about how much you sure that we lynch townie.

[Eyjafjallajökull]

 At last I'm here! Sorry for not posting, and yes, thank you for not having lynched me already. (Bytheway Kilojoule Proton I'm offended, though yes, your logic is right, I think)
 
Dark Star
     "Eyjafjallajökull: Can I call you Eyja? Also, if you were a rolecop, would you check the person that everyone finds scummy or the less scummy person that fewer people suspect?"
  Eyja's good. So is a rolecop mafia or town? I'm playing the first time, so I may ask pretty stupid questions... (but nevertheless don't kill me for that!)
If rolecop is mafia - then I don't quite get the question, but if rolecop is town - then maybe I would check the less scummy one.

 Worldmaster27
     Do you really want to know everything I've done in this half of the week? For I could tell...   

 Everyone
     I'm gonna post not very often, but please don't kill me for thaat,... I will post though! I wanna play   Shit, even this sounds strange XD  well... yes I'll join the discussion tomorrow, pardon 

[Illgeo]

Tomorrow, always tomorrow

[Worldmaster27]

Illgeo: Fair enough, though it is still much more likely that we'll get town instead of mafia. However lynching town is not necessarily a bad thing. Let me quote the OP on this...

Spoiler: On D1 No-lynches (click to show/hide)

I'm not an IC, but I once wrote a rant about nolynches on Day One that I think would be beneficial for this audience, so I quote it below. In brief, you can (i.e., it's a valid vote, and if it has majority no lynch will happen) but you shouldn't unless you have a very very good reason. Actual ICs will, of course, chime in with their own thoughts, and there are different considerations to be had in subsequent days; the below applies only for D1.

Even in a game like this, or a role-heavy game like a BYOR, paranormal, or bastard, without a D1 lynch people will lack context for the conversation during the day, which is the very point of the day game. The information lost is not just the flip of a person, but who voted them, with what arguments, and forms the very foundation of how the town power roles will choose their night actions. Information is key, and timely information moreso. People flipping at the start of D2 is not nearly as useful, and a nolynch will result in people using their powers on whoever they were voting (if block/investigate) or a crapshoot for protections and the like, due to lack of context and closure.

A D1 no-lynch pretty much wastes all of D1 content, and gives scum a chance to NK/convert/whatever while town has to shoot in the dark. The amount of information lost is not small, but most importantly, you lose the opportunity to use it. N1 will never come again. Even if you learn the information later, you'll never get that night back, which scum got for free. Not good for town at all.

Also considering the fact that the D1 lynchee is almost always town (when was the last time anyone saw a scum hang D1?),

Not that rare. The very last game I played (Cybrid Mafia 3) we lynched scum D1. A couple games before that (Politibastard) as well, though that was a... different sort of game. I'm sure there are several others.

So sure, it doesn't happen that often, but it certainly does happen. Plus the possibility of a mislynch is built into the balance of the game. If there is going to be one, it's best for town that it happens sooner rather than later, so maximum information is provided early. It's never good, but a D1 no-lynch is worse.

Please disabuse yourself of the notion that a D1 no-lynch is good for town ever. Except in very narrow types of games where constant (not just D1) no-lynch can be used to break the setup (which is not the case here), whenever you think a D1 no-lynch is good because it's cautious, it's misapplied caution, and will hurt town much more than a possible mislynch would.

Though it doesn't completely apply to this, as we aren't talking about no-lynches, it still has some points that show lynching town is not the worse case scenario.

PPE: Eyja: Welcome, glad you could join us.

Let me start out by saying that, in my eyes, this was not the best introduction you could have given yourself. Your post boiled down to "Please don't kill me I'll post I promise!"

Stupid questions are not a scumtell, especially in Beginner's Mafia. You don't need to worry about that, and if someone does try that then I think that the accuser would be scum hoping to throw suspicion away from themselves.

On killing you for not posting often, well, that depends on whether or not you're otherwise active on Bay12. If you're active elsewhere but seem to be ignoring the game, that's lurking. If you aren't online often and thus don't post much, that's life. If you're making posts often without much content, then that's active lurking.

And no, I don't want you to spill out everything you've been doing.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Unvote Eyjafjallajökull for a show of good faith, vote Salsacookies because the dice made me do it.

[Urist Imiknorris]

Vote Count:
<0> Illgeo:
<1> Salsacookies: Kilojoule Proton
<1> GayArchaea: Salsacookies
<1> Kilojoule Proton: Scripten
<0> Eyjafjallajökull:
<0> Worldmaster27:
<0> Scripten:
<0> TheDarkStar:
<1> 4maskwolf: GayArchaea
<0> No Lynch:

Not voting: Illgeo, Eyjafjallajökull, Worldmaster27, TheDarkStar, 4maskwolf

<0> Extend:
<0> Shorten:

Day One will end Wednesday, October 15, at 8 PM EST.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Vote extend.

[4maskwolf]

Sorry guys, I'm here now.

The game of mafia is a game of deception and trickery.  Place your full trust in nobody's words, but weigh them against what you know and what you believe.   Do not be stuck in your views, but constantly challenge them: always ask yourself why.  Why do you trust this person, why do you suspect this other person.  If you find yourself completely stumped, go back and read the thread: does anything stand out to you?   Is there anyone who seems to be avoiding notice?  Remain constantly vigilant, but remember that, town or scum, you must work with others to win.

Day one is a day for feeling out the other players.  Random attacks, particularly early on, are common and acceptable, as long as they don't continue to be baseless for long.  While the likelyhood of finding scum on day one is low, that does not mean that it is useless: to the contrary, it is considered by some to be the most important day.  Pay attention to what people say and how they act, because these things can be the basis of a case later on.

Remember to that the IC's are not above any of this.  We are not infalliable, we are not so far above you.  We have been around longer, yes, but we are not perfect at the game: nobody can be.  We will make mistakes, we will slip up, just as you all will.  Remember, too, that the only things you can trust from us are the things we place in our IC voice.  Mine, as you may have noticed, is the italic text.  We are just as able to be scum as you are, and just as likely to be town as you are.  We are players too, and everyone needs to remember that, IC and new player.

I'll talk to you in normal voice in a little bit.

[TheDarkStar]

For consistency, I'll generally use IC text when I either comment on gameplay mechanics, posting styles, or general help to people. For specific post responses that don't fall in these catagories, I'll usually use normal text.

Vote extend.

Extends are done in normal-colored bold. However, you're right in that we should probably extend.

Dark Star
     "Eyjafjallajökull: Can I call you Eyja? Also, if you were a rolecop, would you check the person that everyone finds scummy or the less scummy person that fewer people suspect?"
  Eyja's good. So is a rolecop mafia or town? I'm playing the first time, so I may ask pretty stupid questions... (but nevertheless don't kill me for that!)
If rolecop is mafia - then I don't quite get the question, but if rolecop is town - then maybe I would check the less scummy one.

 Everyone
     I'm gonna post not very often, but please don't kill me for thaat,... I will post though! I wanna play   Shit, even this sounds strange XD  well... yes I'll join the discussion tomorrow, pardon 

1. Town, because otherwise, as you said, the questions makes no sense. However, why did you answer that you would check the less scummy one?

2. Good to hear that you'll be posting.

to the contrary, it is the most important day.  Pay attention to what people say and how they act, because these things should be important evidence or a basis for a case later on

FTFY 

Worldmaster27: I would probably go with accusing others too quickly with wild abandon. Would seem too blatent to me, but that may be what a troll wants you to think.

Random vote

GayArchaea
He killed Capitalism, lynch him!

Why did you ask no questions? As Worldmaster said, you really should ask and answer them. Simply accusing people gets you nowhere if you have no evidence to back it up. Also, random votes are less "You should die randomly!" and more "You should answer my question, and I'm voting you to make sure that you do".

Unvote Eyjafjallajökull for a show of good faith, vote Salsacookies because the dice made me do it.

Same thing here: You voted for someone with no good reason. Ask him something! Scumhunt!

[Kilojoule Proton]

@Salsacookies: Did you or did you not steal all the cookies at the Flaming Fox yesterday?

(I will keep the bold in mind for next extend/shorten vote, then. Thanks!)

[Worldmaster27]

KP: The idea is to ask questions that will get us somewhere...

What's your reasoning for directly voting for Salsacookies right after you unvoted Eyja? You don't need to keep your vote on someone at all times and it decreases the value of your vote as a pressure tool - it seems like you have your vote on him just for the sake of having your vote on someone.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Ohh. But if I unvote now, it might end up trivializing my vote even more. PBP Mafia seems to be far more complicated than F2F Mafia.

@Salsacookies: If I said you were a town cop, what would you say?

[Worldmaster27]

KP: I'm not saying that you should unvote - sorry if it came off that way - but you should give your vote meaning. Build a case, review what he's said, and pressure him with anything you found suspicious.

@Salsacookies: If I said you were a town cop, what would you say?

Not mine, but if you accused him of being town cop I'd say you were rolefishing.

[Kilojoule Proton]

Actually, I think I will unvote Salsacookies and look around for a better (re: less embarrassing) case in two hours.

[GayArchaea]

Kilojoule Proton, is there anyone you suspect at the moment? if yes, please state who?

4maskwolf, if you were town, who would you lynch d1 if you were stuck between two options: the player who makes few posts, or the player who makes many worthless posts?