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[SlyStalker]

When a caravan comes you get the option to pit one of your melee soldiers against a melee caravan guard in a traditional, ceremonial bout. Before the match, you and the trader must wager an equal amount of goods (up to a certain value). If your soldier wins, you claim the winnings and vice versa. The new levels of lethality makes it possible for the dwarves to actually hurt but not kill each other. There should be some risk of death involved. Thoughts?

[Insanegame27]

no. This would bring nothing to the game. not unless you're playing MDF orc fortress where combat is their culture. Dwarves are industry

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[Bumber]

-Binary Snip-

The padding isn't necessary. Computers store things in bytes, but 10 is fine for humans. (Or even 0b10 or 10₂ for less ambiguous forms.)

[smjjames]

What's that binary string about?

I agree though in that it wouldn't add anything to DF. There isn't even anything in their culture that would explain such ceremonial combat in the first place.

[SlyStalker]

OK, maybe not combat, but I'm sure that they'd have some sort of competition...

[smjjames]

OK, maybe not combat, but I'm sure that they'd have some sort of competition...

Like beer/mead/wine drinking? Which the elves would lose every time (unless maybe the brew is sunshine).

[Bumber]

What's that binary string about?

It's about the OP's sig:

There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, and those who don't.

EDIT: Your sig is wrong. 2 in binary is 

In other words, 00000010 kinds of people rather than 10. But it doesn't matter.

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The last character in Insanegame27's binary (which doesn't display on the forums outside of edit mode) is 00000010 (corresponding to STX - Start of Text,) and would be better encoded as individual ASCII characters:

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[smjjames]

What's that binary string about?

It's about the OP's sig:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

EDIT: Your sig is wrong. 2 in binary is

Last character is 00000010, and would be better encoded as individual ASCII characters:

0011000000110000001100000011000000110000001100000011000100110000

But he doesn't have a binary string in his sig?

This is a massive thread derail anyway.

[Chevaleresse]

Binary is also a numerical system, independent of its usage in computing, so writing 10 is perfectly correct in the same way that writing 6 is perfectly acceptable over 06.

[smjjames]

I know what binary is, and we're massively derailing slystalkers thread.

[SlyStalker]

Anyway, you guys have made your point. So ceremonial combat is not a good idea. But what about other competitions? Craftsmandwarfship of the best pickaxe? Beer-drinking (smjjames)? Fastest miner??

[Sinistar]

You know, I actually like this suggestion. At least, sounds good on paper. Fighting to (possible) death over a couple of *gneiss rock mugs* sounds completely dorfy.

As for it not being in their character - I don't know. Who's to say some dwarf lineages can't be a bit more war-like? Or even, maybe that could be some strictly cultural thing, nothing to do with their general lust for battle (or lack of it).

And not bringing much new to the game? Well, game mechanics wise, I'd agree. But we can't glaze over the fact that one more interaction with (outside) world is a potential positive feature. Dwarf Fortress is supposed to be a fantasy simulator after all. Hm, being a simulator, maybe the most sense it would make if such combat would occur semi-spontaneously, with as little of player's interaction as possible. Perhaps one day the coming of the (dwarf) caravan will be a whole new event for a fortress, worth enough for dwarfs to throw a party that would involve drinking competitions, ceremonial combat/sparring and all the other suggestions posted here.

[darknessofthenight]

I really like this idea. I think both sides should be able to cheat, thus creating a way to separate from the motherland.

[StagnantSoul]

If you can assign on dwarf per caravan guard, and it's a huge gain for xp, this is a great idea.

[Linkxsc]

Well on the mention of the drinking contests and such. Wasn't there a plan for there to eventually be taverns adn such, whcih travelers (and the caravan) could visit. Trade stories of the world outside of your fort, random stuff. Perhaps have it be that people can do competitions between themselves and outsiders for random goods. Perhaps you might even get lucky 1 day and one of your dorfs will win an artifact off someone else in a drunken armwrestling competition. Or they might lose 1 of yours?