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Why do you 'like' this game?

Interesting, rarely used setting (early 20th Century)
Good mix of strategy and management gameplay, but with simple rules
Semi-freeform diplomacy (and backstabbings!)
All of the above
I'm just forum game addict and gotta play'em all

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Re: Fantasy Conquest: Era of Diesel, Testgame, Discussion Thread!
« Reply #210 on: November 11, 2014, 11:37:24 am »

Yer a republic, so 25 normal provinces + 3 Populous provinces in Republic + Capital for Republic = 25 + 6 + 3 = 34 armies v:
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« Reply #211 on: November 11, 2014, 11:43:35 am »

Oh, I though populous gave +2 in addition to the provincial army.

Then I'm going to point out that Lototzka should get 9 (provinces) + 3*2 (populous) +2 (Capital, dictatorship) = 17 armies and not 21.(Not that it matter much since he's so far beneath the army limit anyway.)
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« Reply #212 on: November 11, 2014, 11:44:58 am »

Lototzka is a monarchy, not a dictatorship.
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« Reply #213 on: November 11, 2014, 11:47:36 am »

Dang, I keep forgetting that. Honestly, had I remembered that during the whole game, I would have been so much more aggressive toward Lototzka.
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« Reply #214 on: November 11, 2014, 11:49:31 am »

Dang, I keep forgetting that. Honestly, had I remembered that during the whole game, I would have been so much more aggressive toward Lototzka.

Do not worry, monarchy's research problems will be Kashyyk's undoing in the long run :P
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« Reply #215 on: November 11, 2014, 12:00:07 pm »

You're assuming there will be a long run: I only need 9 more provinces to win. At my current rate of expansion, that's 3 turns. I'm afraid no one will have the time to deploy any new technologies* (Harb may get military aircraft, but  I doubt it: he needs 4 turns to research it, then one turn to build airfields, and that if I don't cut down his research rate first).

* I'm not counting Improved Material, because it doesn't give any tangible benefits.
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« Reply #216 on: November 11, 2014, 01:45:04 pm »

Monarchy has already been my undoing, IMO. -1 to all combat, only 1RP per academy outside Capitol... I really should've pressed my numbers advantage before it stopped having an effect.
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« Reply #217 on: November 11, 2014, 02:03:16 pm »

Ooh this looks interesting.

I'll keep an eye on this, I think...
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« Reply #218 on: November 11, 2014, 04:55:13 pm »

Monarchy has already been my undoing, IMO. -1 to all combat, only 1RP per academy outside Capitol... I really should've pressed my numbers advantage before it stopped having an effect.

You really should not have picked Monarchy. :p Also, you should have built more HQs while you could: Harb for example can pretty much loose all his army every turn, whereas you need 7 turns to fully replenish yours.
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« Reply #219 on: November 12, 2014, 03:11:16 am »

Ye. Monarchies require to grab lots of territories (or start big but that's not hard given how many Points they have) to be able to keep-up with other governments in terms of research.

Research pacts should help next game, given they're flat bonus based on total amount of academies in both countries.
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« Reply #220 on: November 12, 2014, 04:06:19 am »

Monarchy has already been my undoing, IMO. -1 to all combat, only 1RP per academy outside Capitol... I really should've pressed my numbers advantage before it stopped having an effect.
You really should not have picked Monarchy. :p Also, you should have built more HQs while you could: Harb for example can pretty much loose all his army every turn, whereas you need 7 turns to fully replenish yours.
Not as useful as you'd think; Sure, I can regain a lot of troops every turn, but I can't pick where they spawn, and it's a long march to get back to the frontlines.
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« Reply #221 on: November 12, 2014, 07:42:30 am »

Ye. Monarchies require to grab lots of territories (or start big but that's not hard given how many Points they have) to be able to keep-up with other governments in terms of research.

Research pacts should help next game, given they're flat bonus based on total amount of academies in both countries.

Well, the issue is that the fight system reward quality over quantity heavily. If you're a monarchy attacking a non-monarchy, you'll be at -1, they'll be at +2, so you're going to loose about 80% of your offensive battle (And 40% of your defensive battles). With these odds, unless you get lucky attacking a capital, you'll never get enough lands to grow fast enough.
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« Reply #222 on: November 12, 2014, 07:47:32 am »

Agreed. Maybe there should be some sort of outnumbering bonus?
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« Reply #223 on: November 12, 2014, 07:54:54 am »

Agreed. Maybe there should be some sort of outnumbering bonus?

Ye, I will think of something. Maybe +1 per 3 armies attacking the province? This would become +2 at 6 armies, +3 at 9 armies etc.
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« Reply #224 on: November 12, 2014, 07:57:39 am »

It's kinda weird to get a bonus if you attack 3 armies with 3 armies though. Why not +1 if you have twice as many troops, +2 if you have three time as many troops etc etc?
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