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[TheFreshPrince]

Not very muscular, just "quite fat", in his description. Will this effect his combat effectiveness at all? Is there any way to work him out and make him muscular?

[Saiko Kila]

Not very muscular, just "quite fat", in his description. Will this effect his combat effectiveness at all? Is there any way to work him out and make him muscular?

Fatness has nothing to do with musculature. Fatness is amount of fat, and musculature is just strength. For example my dwarf adventurer is "strapped with massive amounts of muscle and lard" because he has maximum strength and maximum fatness.

I don't know how to train animals, I suppose it's impossible to remove or add fat (because they don't eat), and I've never seen them increasing strength. Their Strength attribute is usually rusty, because they don't use skill which trains it.

Strength is related to speed and fighting skills, so probably it's good to have strong animals. If something is "very weak" it is much weaker than average and has negligible strength. As for fat I'm not sure. I know that to get maximum speed in adventure mode you can't be too strong (muscle decreases speed because it weighs much and increases body size, but also MAY increase speed because it cancels penalties) and too fat. But too high strength has paradoxically more negative influence upon speed than high amount of fat.

[Prudent Viper]

He's fat because he's eaten so many elves. Give that tiger a medal!

[Koremu]

IIRC Fat layers can absorb blows that would otherwise cause injury. I remember someone doing ‼SCIENCE‼ on it with dorfs.

[TheFreshPrince]

Ok so being fat doesn't make him any less effective in battle, it just gives him more layers of protection?

[Nail]

Pretty much. Unless youre fighting fire-spitting enemies, fat is where those inflict the most damage. Also, I think fat animal yield more meat then skinny ones when butchered.

[Rum]

A few things.

First you can remove his fat, by melting it away, but the more fat a creature has the more likely it is to bleed out.

fat also does have an impact on combat.  fat either makes it harder for them to bleed out from cuts/severed limbs (because it gives the creature more blood total) or it gives the creature more opportunities to bleed/bleed more when cut.  Not sure if this line is true, just something i read on here a couple years ago.

the fatter a creature is, the more it weighs.  so if it falls on someone it will hurt more but also should do more damage with attacks using its limbs and the default push attack.  it might also have an impact on using melee weapons but that might not be accurate either.

Spend too much time on these forums and its hard to separate the truth from the hypotheticals sometimes

[khearn]

But in the bottom line, if a giant war tiger falls on you, it won't really matter if it's fat or skinny. You're on the bottom, and you're going to end up looking like a line: ___

[Naglfar]

I wonder if fatter animals are slower.

[TheFreshPrince]

A few things.

First you can remove his fat, by melting it away, but the more fat a creature has the more likely it is to bleed out.

fat also does have an impact on combat.  fat either makes it harder for them to bleed out from cuts/severed limbs (because it gives the creature more blood total) or it gives the creature more opportunities to bleed/bleed more when cut.  Not sure if this line is true, just something i read on here a couple years ago.

the fatter a creature is, the more it weighs.  so if it falls on someone it will hurt more but also should do more damage with attacks using its limbs and the default push attack.  it might also have an impact on using melee weapons but that might not be accurate either.

Spend too much time on these forums and its hard to separate the truth from the hypotheticals sometimes

So ultimately, being fat is actually a good thing in DF combat?

[Prudent Viper]

Honestly, even if it did make a difference, the effect would negligible. Few battles in Dwarf fortress are won as a result of mildly varied attributes.

[Aristion]

Who cares though. If the tiger and its buddies eat an entire goblin siege, I won't be complaining anytime soon.

[PDF urist master]

So ultimately, being fat is actually a good thing in DF combat?

it's why strong belwas is such a badass.

[Saiko Kila]

Even extremely fat and weak dwarf has much more musculature than fat, so fat is not really important. With animals (like tigers and dogs) the percentage of fat is even lower. I suppose that giant tiger doesn't differ too much from a regular tiger in this matter.

[Findulidas]

I wonder if fatter animals are slower.

They were before the release of 2014. I dont really know how speed works now tbh. It was a very small decrease in speed though so the fact that the fat tissue being bigger and therefore increasing chance of absorbing a blow mightve been equal. Neither of them very important I think. Strength, agility and thoughness was where it was.