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Dwarven ale roast?
« on: September 24, 2014, 10:44:01 pm »

Seems like my dwarves wanted a drink that you can eat..



Known bug, I'm assuming? :) He almost made enough for everyone in the fort to get one..
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2014, 10:45:40 pm »

Seems like my dwarves wanted a drink that you can eat..



Known bug, I'm assuming? :) He almost made enough for everyone in the fort to get one..
Not a bug, as far as I know, it's just that dwarven ale was the most abundant ingredient in the roast.  There is at least one solid ingredient in there, that's for sure.

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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 10:50:31 pm »

Seems like my dwarves wanted a drink that you can eat..



Known bug, I'm assuming? :) He almost made enough for everyone in the fort to get one..
Not a bug, as far as I know, it's just that dwarven ale was the most abundant ingredient in the roast.  There is at least one solid ingredient in there, that's for sure.
More specifically, I believe it was the first ingredient picked up.  A 'meal' is any four ingredients, at LEAST one of which is a solid.  It can be made of ale, wine, beer, and fat.

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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 11:02:35 pm »

Ale, wine, beer, and fat.... That'd be absolutely disgusting! Wait, what? My previously depressed dwarf is ecstatic from eating that?... Err, okay.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 11:08:56 pm »

Ale, wine, beer, and fat.... That'd be absolutely disgusting! Wait, what? My previously depressed dwarf is ecstatic from eating that?... Err, okay.
My favorite, is when you have a meal of cow fat, cow fat, cow fat, and cow fat.  Literally just a pile of grease and fat with no spice or filler.  Like chewing on fatty bacon, but without the bacon.

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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 11:21:23 pm »

Oh... Gawd, that's gross! I know how they make the ale, wine, beer, and fat roasts though.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2014, 12:19:58 am »

Ale, wine, beer, and fat.... That'd be absolutely disgusting! Wait, what? My previously depressed dwarf is ecstatic from eating that?... Err, okay.
My favorite, is when you have a meal of cow fat, cow fat, cow fat, and cow fat.  Literally just a pile of grease and fat with no spice or filler.  Like chewing on fatty bacon, but without the bacon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muktuk
http://thefoodblog.com.au/2012/03/the-tradition-of-eating-pure-fat.html
And it was once extremely common prior to other easily available commercial oils to just eat slices of bread slathered with lard. Not "pure," though, no.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 06:22:29 am »

Ale, wine, beer, and fat.... That'd be absolutely disgusting! Wait, what? My previously depressed dwarf is ecstatic from eating that?... Err, okay.
My favorite, is when you have a meal of cow fat, cow fat, cow fat, and cow fat.  Literally just a pile of grease and fat with no spice or filler.  Like chewing on fatty bacon, but without the bacon.

Ah yes, masterful lard fry-ups.

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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 11:11:19 am »

Rules for prepared food are pretty simple: the _first_ item the cook takes must be solid, the _last_ item gives the meal its name. Apart from that, anything cookable and allowed will be used, but solid items in containers (mainly barrels, but apparently also bags?) are preferred whenever possible.

All-lard roasts are much rarer now that tallow doesn't unstack upon rendering any more. Roasts from 4x (or more) quarry bush leaves are still quite popular.
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2014, 11:43:56 am »

All of those, ale, wine, beer, and fat, are generally used in cooking in various ways. Granted, they're usually not the entirety of the ingredients.

Trust me though, all that stuff is far better for you than the artificial crap meant to cheaply replace those things that they put in today's food.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 01:51:25 pm »



Look how Gelatin is made, especially prior to current forms.

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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 02:18:27 pm »

Good thing heart disease and liver cirriosis don't exist in dwarf fortress. Also, maybe your dwarves just wanted to sing a drinking song without having to drink.

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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 02:57:05 pm »

pretty sure dwarves are immune to heart attacks. I had a dwarf whose heart was cyan in the wound screen and it didn't affect him one bit (though  it was reported as a major injury)

the dwarven body uses alcohol in the same way we drink water. pretty sure they're immune to alcohol poisoning. if not, I don't know what cruel, merciless god created them and I do not want to follow him/her.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 04:13:17 pm »

I just wish toady would implement better checks and balances into dwarven cooking, such that you cannot have repeated ingredients in a prepared meal.

EG, eggs, spam, spam, spam and spam is not allowed, but eggs, bacon, sausage, and spam is.

I groan every time I see a masterful giant omelette. (made from finely minced turkey eggs, masterfully minced turkey eggs, minced turkey eggs, and finely minced turkey eggs.) It defeats the purpose of having prepared meals ( the idea is to have many different ingredients in the food, so that the chances of a 'favorite meal item' being consumed increase) if every item in the meal is identical.

The code to prevent this from happening is literally 4 lines long.

Currently, overseers have to engage in radical levels of micromanagement in the kitchens to prevent all-tallow-roasts from being made. Clearly players want roasts to have variety.

*sigh*

Still, one could* theoretically roast an alcoholic food substance if they were clever.
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Re: Dwarven ale roast?
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