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[E. Albright]

Thanks for playing, Bluerobin. For all my talk of provocation, the engine guaranteed we'd be fighting sooner rather than later when it plunked us down with one province between our capitals. I'm not sure any amount of diplomacy would have been able to get around that, especially since we were both pretty strong dom-wise.

One bit of advice going forward. It's old advice, but always good advice: at least one point of PD, always and everywhere. I capped 4 or 5 of your provinces with scouts on serial turns, and if I had been even just slightly more conservative with maintaining my sieging force on the last turn of last week, it would have meant ~2500g of troops would have died via retreating.

[E. Albright]

Llamaserver claims to be down 'til tomorrow night. FYI.

[Delta Foxtrot]

I also postponed 24h just in case.
Our game didn't disappear like most others (maybe because we started ours pre-4.14?), but I still haven't received confirmation for sending my turn.
I don't know if postponing is any help, but I guess that's all I can do until llama lets us know more.

[Delta Foxtrot]

Hi all, llamabeast here. I believe the LlamaServer should now be back up and running. It will take a while (maybe 12 hours even!) to process the backlog of games that need hosting. I've postponed all the turn timers to allow people to get back on track. Any admin actions during the last 24 hours may have been lost - admins, please check!
I'm very sorry to everyone for this disruption. Amazing that new ways of going wrong can turn up after so long!

Sounds like we're back on track, more or less.

[Culise]

Nations of the world, the proud nation of Dousheim united has undertaken the provocations of Illen for long enough.  Their scouts cross our borders, unwilling to permit the sanctity of the river between our nations.  Insults are levied against our nation, false charges of aggression here in this very place.  Innocent nations are crushed beneath their heels; first Midmatia, and now Lissasa stands threatened by them.  Finally, the Thrones themselves are subsumed, one by one, into their rapacious maw.  The thrones of Law and Stability are already theirs, as is a third of form yet to be sung that stands surrounded and sealed by their command.  The High Throne stands at risk, and from there, an ideal platform to seize the Thrones of Bones, of Brass, of Stars, of two not yet sung in tales, and last but certainly not least, that one which they know so well, the Throne of War.  Their priests stand ready to make the rites and seize the foundations of this world, as they could do in a single bold gesture.  This is a threat not only to Dousheim, nor only to Lissasa, nor to any single nation alone.  This is a threat that faces our entire world, and all that bear the spark of divinity, those measures of the one true song of the spheres. 

This is an act we enter into with heavy hearts, but our minds are set and our voices as one.  Earendel of the Morning Star, the Grey One hereby names Gault as a false pretender and issues formal challenge to the self-styled Lord of Men's Fates.  Our men shall meet them on the field of battle, and we shall vanquish them. 

EDIT:
Do a fancy work in IC speech, make a typo right in the middle. <_<

[E. Albright]

Peoples of Pelliwyr, I invite you to freely weigh the value of the words of Illen against the lies and half-truths spouted by the slavemasters of Doushiem.

Spoiler: Rantz and hyperbole (click to show/hide)

It is true that our people seek to freely circulate throughout the world, and it is further true that some profit with the information they acquire in their travels by selling it to Illenese military companies. When your neighbor - who claims to view borders as inviolate, yet makes detailed public proclamations about the status of disputes between private parties well beyond the river they claim to view as a sanctified boundary - loftily lectures your knees about the protectorate they have established encompassing unincorporated territories within your natural geographic borders - those same borders whose sanctity they now wax long-winded in praising - and masses countless troops on the frontier they have fortified for "protection" against forces that have never approached said border... would not any Man, in the interests of making informed decisions in deciding his future, seek to know how many hundreds more troops the hauflin slavemasters mass just out of sight for the laughable purpose of "protecting" their wretched, undesirable territories against threats that exist only in the decietful, dangerous rhetoric they spew?

As to the other lies of the knee-high slavers... Their vile allies in Lissasa, who the free peoples of Illen stand accused of threatening, invaded Illen without warning or provocation. Our "menacing" has to date consisted of freeing the province they treacherously conquered, and pointedly declining to advance beyond its borders to invade their island - and this act of pure self defense threatens to be rolled back next month as a sprawling collection of lizards and enslaved humans - many not even freed of their chains by death itself - seek to re-subjugate that territory they previously conquered and used as a base to raid the Illenese heartland. No, the only menacing performed by Illen against these conniving cowards is menacing their mediocrity and entitled convictions that none should be able to surpass their accomplishments even when they choose to sit idle as their betters busy themselves with hard work and vision. If you look forward to a world where shiftless sluggards seek to deny your worth and shift the profits of your labors into their coffers by chicanery, of inhuman beings declaring you their property or dictating burdensome regulations as to how you can utilize your own lands (as Doushiem has shown itself so fond of doing), then by all means, accept the valueless screed of the half-men and their undead allies.

It is also worth noting that Illen is decreed a great menace to the thrones of Pelliwyr because we have claimed one and hold another. Yet their scheming ally, Lissasa has openly claimed two. Illen is a menace because their territory encompasses a third throne - yet Lissasa's encompasses and abuts a total of four. And what is Doushiem's proposed solution to the supposed theological menace posed by Illen claiming one throne, holding another, and encompassing a third? Why, for Lissasa to claim at least one of those three thrones, and by all appearances for the hauflin to claim the other two to bring their claimed total to three as well. If claiming one -or even two - thrones makes a nation a menace to peace, what does it say when a nation claims two thrones and then goes to war for the purpose of claiming at least a third, with two more sitting directly on their claimed border, and two beyond that within two months march of it? And yet it is Illen that Doushiem decries as a menace, and warmongering, invasive Lissasa who the hauflin names a noble protector of religious freedom. Freedom to worship the self-appointed God of This World, perhaps...

Men and near-men of Pelliwyr, do not let the vile lies and trumped-up "provocations" dreamed up by the twisted knee-high hauflin overlords sway you from reason into a collective endeavor that will aid none but the least among you: Doushiem. Indeed, even in this, the eleventh hour, the peoples of Illen ask their war-mongering fuchsia neighbors - both Lissasa and Doushiem - to eschew this needless war and allow us all to freely develop our potentials. Respect the lauded sanctity of our borders, and forgo your envious schemes of conquest and plunder. Peoples of Pelliwyr, you will do well to note that it will be the "warmonger" whose territory is invaded (again) next month, and the "threatened champion of peace" who enjoys the fruits of conquest even as they decry the honest people of Illen and shed crocodile tears at the piles of stolen property their disease-ridden bat raiders bring home from their unjust, coercive, and unprovoked invasion of a neighbor who - despite months of brazen provocation - has done nothing to threaten them outside their feverish rhetorical fancies. Note well who profits from this "defensive" war, and remember that the unaccomplished and unimaginative hauflin and lizard looks at your hard work with a hateful envy. Should the peaceable Illenese-Midmatian Free Trade Region fall under Doushi-Lissasan regulation, they will not stop there - they will not stop until every nation on Pelliwyr has been torn down to their shabby, uninspired level, stripped of the fruits of its honest labors, and crushed beneath the weight of two-tone fuchsia chains.

[tldr: Sending 2-3 scouts into your neighbor's territory over a handful of turns: gross provocation. The two hundred troops that were parked on the border who caught them: totally not at all provocative. Holding two thrones and being adjacent to two more: threat to world peace. Holding two thrones, being adjacent to two more, and invading your neighbor who holds two thrones: beleaguered savior of humanity.]

[edit: fixed obvious typos, unreasonable conciseness]
[edit2: remembered there's a spoiler tag]

[Boksi]

You really like to type on your keyboard, don't you?

[E. Albright]

I blame Culise for this. I tend to get into the RP aspect more than I should, and when someone suggests that I try to channel a long-winded gasbag who's overfond of the sound of their voice like Rand, you're going to see the worst in me ooze out.

(And let's be honest, I'm not exactly terse and concise under normal circumstances.)

[Delta Foxtrot]

1½h to go, three players unaccounted for. I postponed by 24h.

[E. Albright]

Aye, sorry for waiting to the last minute this time; that was a combination of diplomatic delay and a lack of enthusiasm for digging into my "inspirational material" to dredge up commander names.

[Boksi]

Oh yeah, I pretty much forgot to send my turn in. Thought I had done it already, but I guess I didn't.

...This is a bit troublesome. I don't think I'll be able to get it in tonight since I don't have access to my laptop right now. Well, I'll hopefully manage to do it tomorrow.

[Bluerobin]

[tldr: Sending 2-3 scouts into your neighbor's territory over a handful of turns: gross provocation. The two hundred troops that were parked on the border who caught them: totally not at all provocative. Holding two thrones and being adjacent to two more: threat to world peace. Holding two thrones, being adjacent to two more, and invading your neighbor who holds two thrones: beleaguered savior of humanity.]

Exactly! Glad to see it summed up so eloquently.

[Culise]

[tldr: Sending 2-3 scouts into your neighbor's territory over a handful of turns: gross provocation. The two hundred troops that were parked on the border who caught them: totally not at all provocative. Holding two thrones and being adjacent to two more: threat to world peace. Holding two thrones, being adjacent to two more, and invading your neighbor who holds two thrones: beleaguered savior of humanity.]

Exactly! Glad to see it summed up so eloquently.

Yep, indeed.  I actually loved Albright's full response, too; very "in the spirit" of things.

[lijacote]

The demand for peace is a demand for the free development of Illen at a pace not easily matched by anyone in this world. Having successfully annexed a neighbour, he then demands that we cease our aggressions. Why, of course! The people of Lissasa are content with their island. Cease all advances into our domain, peoples of the world, and Lissasa will leave you in perfect serenity. You will despair for our ministrations soon enough!

[E. Albright]

On a semi-unrelated off-topic-ish note, another reason I was delayed in getting my turn in:



Eh, heh, heh...

Spoiler: Query/RFC (click to show/hide)

The hoburg "clockwork armor" pictured above is modeled stat-wise on Clockwork Soldiers. 0 enc/-10 reinvig; +5 Str/-5 Def; low resistances; 3/10 AP; human weapon selections; either 18 natural prot or plate hauberek (with Def and AP boosts to cancel the penalties) and a random helm (if it's the former, also poor amphibian and medium poisonres); limited slots for commanders; maybe +2 morale and +1 hp. This is currently pegged at +20g/+20 or +25r (for partially vs. fully enclosed armor). I know NationGen isn't the most balanced thing ever, but do those stats sound reasonable? I don't want them to be too strong, but they need to be usuable too...

(I tried playing with a sacred model of them last night with a 9E9N bless, and couldn't decide if they were an overpriced bad joke or OP. Against crossbows they're a bad joke, and they're not much better against sufficiently large masses of crappy infantry... but that doesn't seem entirely wrong...)

(Another option is to look at the mechanical mosquitoes and ants, and just drop enc to 1 or 2 and #mounted instead of making them them 0 enc infantry with negative reinvig.)