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No

Only Judeism

Only Islam

Yes to both Judeism and Islam

[penguinofhonor]

Also if I remember right they had plenty of warning signs

someone tell me I'm misreading this

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

disregard that


i really shouldn't post crap 5 minutes after waking up





im very sorry for that one

[timferius]

Random post, because this thread makes me think back to the days. Putting ashes on peoples foreheads is weird, particularly when it's your classmates (For context, I was being groomed for a while to becoming a sort of youth representative of the church, which is why I think the priest is bit bitter that I suddenly retired).

[Descan]

Though, to be fair, they did have *some* warning. That's why so many Jews (and all the other marginalized groups, like homosexuals and gypsies) left the country, because of the rise of a fairly anti-semitic party that within a few years starting doing pretty skeevy things. Not to mention Kristallnacht. But it wasn't quite *obvious*, especially for Jews not living in Germany (Polish Jews didn't exactly expect to be living in Germany any time soon, especially without having to move...) so it's one of those 20/20 hindsight things.

[penguinofhonor]

There were about half a million Jews in Germany in 1933. Even if all of them died (and this was relatively early on so I think we can assume a decent amount escaped), that'd be a twelfth of the Jewish deaths in the holocaust. "Don't be in Germany" was not an effective strategy.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

We aren't discussing this

Onto an actual christian discussion

What is your opinion on spreading your religion


I don't believe in shoving it down peoples throats but i do believe in trying to get someone to believe in it.

[smjjames]

Isn't trying to shove it down peoples throats what often causes trouble? Historically that is.

[Graknorke]

What is your opinion on spreading your religion

A good number of religions make it your duty to do so. Like again, I don't think your own judgement to not 'shove it down people's throats' is something that the Bible would really support you on.

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions

I can't read into this any way other than that the only way to preach is to be forceful about it.

[TD1]

What do you all think of Platinga's Maximal being theory thing? I quite like it. I mean, even he admits it can be used to disprove itself, but it's still nice.

[scrdest]

What do you all think of Platinga's Maximal being theory thing? I quite like it. I mean, even he admits it can be used to disprove itself, but it's still nice.

It seemingly assumes that for each possible world, the maximum excellence is uniform and can be carried over as-is to each specific world. Also, omniscience and omnipotence interact with each other badly - the qualifier may be invalid in every possible world. Plus other stuff, but bedtime.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

What is your opinion on spreading your religion

A good number of religions make it your duty to do so. Like again, I don't think your own judgement to not 'shove it down people's throats' is something that the Bible would really support you on.

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions

I can't read into this any way other than that the only way to preach is to be forceful about it.

I kinda read that as 'preach it in a way that is appealing to them without going outside of gods word. Constantly preach it or always be ready to preach it and be prepared to preach it to anyone in a way they would understand.'
I don't read that as being forcefull

[Orange Wizard]

Forceful in teaching, perhaps. As far as I'm concerned, "forcing it down peoples' throats" is an ineffective strategy. It just drives them away.
We're called to spread the Word of God, which depends on things like kindness. Rude evangelism is self-defeating.

[Graknorke]

Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions

I can't read into this any way other than that the only way to preach is to be forceful about it.

I kinda read that as 'preach it in a way that is appealing to them without going outside of gods word. Constantly preach it or always be ready to preach it and be prepared to preach it to anyone in a way they would understand.'
I don't read that as being forcefull

Really? I mean, there's a clear divide between what is sound and what is unsound there, and I can't imagine the unsound one being promoted. Which is to say, I read completely the opposite to what you do there. Do not at all change to appeal to the masses, because that's a loss of integrity.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I did not say change to appeal
I said preach it in a way that they would understand
Teach it properly
Don't physically change it but change the way you preach it

There are different styles of preaching that appeal to different people
Like fire and brimstone preaching doesn't work for every audience but it is effective for some people

[Graknorke]

Changing the way you're preaching is still changing to "suit [your audience's] own passions", which is presented as in opposition to sound teaching.

The way I see it is somewhat more interpretively that a good teacher's message should be able to reach everyone, without having to cater to any individual or group in particular. If your message will not reach everyone then it is not good enough.