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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #585 on: September 26, 2014, 10:51:33 am »

I think that he means it literally in case you have Alien Hand Syndrome because then the other hand might try to take back the money. Yeah, Leftie is a complete dick sometimes.
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« Reply #586 on: September 26, 2014, 10:57:56 am »

Issue with the kind of logic about Matt 6 is that you don't know how many Christians are following that rule.

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« Reply #587 on: September 26, 2014, 11:02:58 am »

Out of curiosity, I looked it up:

They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.   (Judges 5:30 NAB)

 Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man.  Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.  (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
The second one, well, again it doesn't say it was rape, but I can understand doubt about that. It might have been for slaves, the reason the non-virgins would have been killed was because they would have been seen as tainted by association.

On the topic of slavery, Israelite slavery was pretty decent for the time. You weren't allowed to hold someone a slave for longer than seven years; after that, you had to let them free, if they wanted to be. If they didn't (if, for example, you took good care of them, and they didn't think they could make it on their own), you went and pierced their ears, to show that they didn't want to be free. After that, then they were a slave for life.

I still....don't see how it's justified at all. Both are crimes. Killing someone's brothers, father and their mother, then keeping them as a slave for seven years away from their home hardly seem like the actions of people you'd want to know. A slave can be raped just as easily as a captive, and I certainly think the wording is indicating that rape is on the table.
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Re: Christian beliefs and discussion
« Reply #588 on: September 26, 2014, 12:13:25 pm »

Crimes? Not at the time. Wasn't seen as reprehensible, either - you'd probably have had great difficulty convincing anyone not to take home slaves after going to war.
Note that nowadays very few Jews raid enemy settlements and take slaves.
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« Reply #589 on: September 26, 2014, 12:16:39 pm »

Rather short sighted to make a book of absolute law about only the current times. Especially on something like rape/slavery.
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« Reply #590 on: September 26, 2014, 12:23:19 pm »

The law books were Genesis-Exodus-Deuteronomy-Leviticus-Numbers (order might be wrong). Joshua is after that.
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« Reply #591 on: September 26, 2014, 12:31:58 pm »

Rather short sighted to make a book of absolute law about only the current times. Especially on something like rape/slavery.
You believe that 'absolute law' is a category that makes sense?
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« Reply #592 on: September 26, 2014, 12:34:22 pm »

Rather short sighted to make a book of absolute law about only the current times. Especially on something like rape/slavery.
You believe that 'absolute law' is a category that makes sense?
I'm not sure what you mean, but if you meant if I believe absolute law is a concept that makes sense, then no, I don't.
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« Reply #593 on: September 26, 2014, 12:43:12 pm »

The Matthew stuff is hands down my favorite shit in the bible. It's amazing.
When I was trying to actually read through the whole bible, that part hit me more than literally any other part, because I finally realized all the blatant hypocrisy.

It's actually one of the reasons I listened to the Mormons in the first place, they ask for donations, but they make sure to never do so publicly, they deal with it behind closed doors.
At least the church I went to did, can't vouche for the rest.
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« Reply #594 on: September 26, 2014, 12:52:11 pm »

In my opinion I much prefer donating in the name of god and staying away from social gain as much as possible because I honestly don't like people that I don't know who know me. I don't like the social structure of American highschool either though



As for favorite book in the bible I'm going with Psalms, I don't know why but I love it
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« Reply #595 on: September 26, 2014, 01:07:20 pm »

I gotta say Psalms as well. if only because it contains one of my favorite passages, Psalm 23:

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 Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
    I will fear no evil,
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    your rod and your staff,
    they comfort me.
 You prepare a table before me
    in the presence of my enemies;
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    my cup overflows.
 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me
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« Reply #596 on: September 26, 2014, 01:10:21 pm »

Love that verse
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« Reply #597 on: September 26, 2014, 01:12:11 pm »

As for favorite book in the bible I'm going with Psalms, I don't know why but I love it

Yeah, Psalms is great, especially the one that Baffler mentioned.

For those of you who don't know what Psalms is, it's a collection of the words to 150 hymns. It's also really poetic.
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« Reply #598 on: September 26, 2014, 01:18:31 pm »

Who doesn't know psalms? :P
It's my favourite, too.
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« Reply #599 on: September 26, 2014, 01:45:09 pm »

S'not bad. Just wish it didn't look so much like victorian (rough approximation) era erotic poetry.
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