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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Orion can be taken as more of a benchmark. Travel is ultimately a function of energy access and storage. Even if Orion when really executed would be pretty horrible and not worthwhile, it demonstrates that we have crossed the line for being able to employ energy on an interstellar scale.

Further, the "hard option" of generation ships requires even less drastic action than riding a nuclear shockwave. People just love Orion because they could actually reach the destination alive.

[TD1]

Stephen Jay Gould:

"No intervening spirit watches lovingly over the affairs of nature (though Newton's clock-winding god might have set up the machinery at the beginning of time and then let it run). No vital forces propel evolutionary change. And whatever we think of God, his existence is not manifest in the products of nature."

To an evolutionary creationist, I'd ask why do you have to say "God made humans, God needs no creator, infinite loop" and why can't you cut it down to "Humans started small, very small. Over the millenia, we pieced ourselves together. Therefore there is a beginning, and the infinite loop is done away with. The universe seems linear in nature, it stands to reason that humans were created in a linear fashion.

Edit: Also, I'm gonna add Ayer in here, 'cause I like his way with words
"...There can be no way of proving that the existence of a god...is even probable.
For if the existence of such a god were probable, then the proposition that he existed would be an empirical hypothesis. And in that case it would be possible to deduce from it, and other empirical hypotheses, certain experiential propositions which were not deducible from those other hypotheses alone.
But in fact this is not possible...For to say that "God Exists" is to make a metaphysical utterance which cannot be either true or false."

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

Just kinda checking in again
Not really going to be doing much active work here as school has gotten more stressful and so has having to help my family and this thread just makes me stress to no end so
That being said monitor yourselves and if something goes bad pm and I'll lock the thread

[Graknorke]

Sat next to a pastor's daughter in maths this year. As it turns out it's pretty jarring to hear somebody talk about religion things like it's normal everyday stuff.

[XXXXYYYY]

Sat next to a pastor's daughter in maths this year. As it turns out it's pretty jarring to hear somebody talk about religion things like it's normal everyday stuff.

I know this feeling. Recently, I have heard not one, but two separate people (One very loudly at lunch, another in my C++ class) attempting to argue for young earth creationism in a very short time, when I'd heard not a whiff of it here before. It is indeed quite jarring.

[Gentlefish]

another in my C++ class attempting to argue for young earth creationism

Prof: "So this is how a class works, and how you simulate an OO program in C++"

Kid: "No that's wrong because the earth is only 200(?) years old."

So... Like that?

[XXXXYYYY]

another in my C++ class attempting to argue for young earth creationism

Prof: "So this is how a class works, and how you simulate an OO program in C++"

Kid: "No that's wrong because the earth is only 200(?) years old."

So... Like that?

No, he sits next to me, and it came up... somehow. Don't remember exactly how we got there, but it was towards the tail end of class and we were done with the work, so we were just chatting.

[timferius]

another in my C++ class attempting to argue for young earth creationism

Prof: "So this is how a class works, and how you simulate an OO program in C++"

Kid: "No that's wrong because the earth is only 200(?) years old."

So... Like that?

No, he sits next to me, and it came up... somehow. Don't remember exactly how we got there, but it was towards the tail end of class and we were done with the work, so we were just chatting.

From what I've seen, if someone has a strongly held belief, they'll often make SURE it comes up in conversation. Those with good enough social skills can steer conversations quite subtly.

[XXXXYYYY]

another in my C++ class attempting to argue for young earth creationism

Prof: "So this is how a class works, and how you simulate an OO program in C++"

Kid: "No that's wrong because the earth is only 200(?) years old."

So... Like that?

No, he sits next to me, and it came up... somehow. Don't remember exactly how we got there, but it was towards the tail end of class and we were done with the work, so we were just chatting.

From what I've seen, if someone has a strongly held belief, they'll often make SURE it comes up in conversation. Those with good enough social skills can steer conversations quite subtly.

Eh, it hadn't come up before, and we'd been chatting for quite a while, so something one of us was doing that day probably started it. We both seemed equally surprised and confused, though, which seems to point to it just coming up normally.

[smjjames]

Just kinda checking in again
Not really going to be doing much active work here as school has gotten more stressful and so has having to help my family and this thread just makes me stress to no end so
That being said monitor yourselves and if something goes bad pm and I'll lock the thread

I think you're worrying a bit much.

[TD1]

*Hides his Sword of Atheistic Retribution*

Yep. Nothing to worry about, just continue looking the other way....

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

sigh

[Orange Wizard]

*Hides his Sword of Atheistic Retribution*

Yeah? How about this!?

*draws his +5 Holy Avenger Longsword*

SMIIIITEE EEEEEVIIIIL!!

...

Um. Sorry. Probably shouldn't turn this thread into yet another RP.

[penguinofhonor]

* penguinofhonor starts an argument about RP

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I have nothing against rp as long as in game religions aren't forced upon you.
Heck I run several games *points at sig*