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[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

oh i thought we were talking about god the father not god the son

So now there's two Gods? I thought the whole (rather strange) logic behind it was that they were the same God. No distinction really needed.

they are the same person in three different forms
god the father
god the son
and god the holy spirit
they are the same person just different forms and how they work


god the father created everything and rules over heaven
god the son was sent to die on the cross and save us from our sins
god the holy spirit is like 'a little tid bit of god that lives in everyone' kinda like that angel on the shoulder that trys to keep you from doing bad things

The sabbath is the day of rest kinda thing [snip]

Yeah, I'm aware of what it is. The question's coming from the direction of inquiring into why people seem to be having so much trouble coming to a consensus on when it is. You'd... think it would be a fairly straightforward thing?

well i think with most christians its sunday
for the jewish its friday

I don't know when or if muslims have it
but there isn't much disagreement to my knowledge between christians on when it is

[TD1]

hey are the same person in three different forms
god the father
god the son
and god the holy spirit
they are the same person just different forms and how they work

How is that different from the many gods in the Ancient Greek religion? One need only say "They're the same God given different roles!" and it would make the same sense.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

hey are the same person in three different forms
god the father
god the son
and god the holy spirit
they are the same person just different forms and how they work

How is that different from the many gods in the Ancient Greek religion? One need only say "They're the same God given different roles!" and it would make the same sense.

Minus the fact that the ancient greek gods were not the same person given different rolls

and sure if you want to say that you can
but there isn't a different form of god for everything

there is only god the father who created everything and rules everything
god the son who god sent to the earth to save mankind from its own sin
and god the holy spirit who dwells in everyone and is the reason you are able to accept god into your heart and be saved from hell and forgiven of your sins

[TD1]

So it's a God split into three roles?

Divide a God three ways, and you get three Gods.

[Baffler]

No more than you get three coins considering the front, edge, and reverse faces.

[TD1]

They're all made of the same material. God is meant to be absolute, and yet in Jesus he acted completely differently.

[Lord Shonus]

A more precise explanation of the Trinity would be that each is a different aspect of God, in much the same way that an orthographic drawing contains three different figures that are all actually the same shape (or, if you prefer, you can compare it to three-dimensional depictions of 4-dimensional shapes such as tesseracts). It's an illusion caused by the inability of the finite to understand the infinite.

[TD1]

Yes, but then why the drastic change in stance between OT God and NT God?

[Bohandas]

oh i thought we were talking about god the father not god the son

So now there's two Gods? I thought the whole (rather strange) logic behind it was that they were the same God. No distinction really needed.

It's just one god,  but he has dissociative identity disorder.

[lemon10]

I have a few question about creating artificial life (which would include organic creatures made from scratch)/intelligence for the Christians here.

Do you believe its possible for humans to create true AI?

If your answer is no, why not? Assuming that humans were created, that should mean that its possible for other creatures besides god to create humans as well.

If they did manage it, would such entities have souls?

Do you think that there is something inherently necessary about the organic components, or does it not matter what form its in (eg. god could create sentient machines if he chose, but nothing else can/machines can never be sentient because they can't have souls)?

[Lord Shonus]

Different situation. OT God was working to empower and protect a specific subset of the human race, while NT God was working to the benefit of all humanity. Why He made that decision at that time, I do not know, although I have my own theories on the matter.

Regarding true artificial intelligence, I do not believe, based on current technology, that it is possible. If, however, such a thing were possible, God would grant it a soul, or not, depending on His will.

[Graknorke]

If, however, such a thing were possible, God would grant it a soul, or not, depending on His will.

That... isn't really much of an answer.
Does anyone else have an actual opinion on the issue? It's actually one I find quite interesting.

[Gentlefish]

... I assume you want a Christian to answer. But I consider a true AI (or a Turing Positive AI, at that) to be wholly autonomous and deserving of rights as another human being.

[lemon10]

Different situation. OT God was working to empower and protect a specific subset of the human race, while NT God was working to the benefit of all humanity. Why He made that decision at that time, I do not know, although I have my own theories on the matter.

Regarding true artificial intelligence, I do not believe, based on current technology, that it is possible. If, however, such a thing were possible, God would grant it a soul, or not, depending on His will.

I agree that its impossible at our current level of technology and knowledge (although I do believe that we could do it with our current hardware if we knew what we were doing), but that isn't really my question. My question is do you think that its possible with *any* level of (purely physical) technology.

[Lord Shonus]

You misunderstand me. I believe that the level to which we have developed silicon based technology is far enough that we can classify true AI as a physical impossibility.