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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #46 on: September 18, 2014, 12:15:34 am »

Kurtulmak is a mod on the Slaves to Armok board IIRC, so he must be associated with Toady/ThreeToe somehow.
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #47 on: September 18, 2014, 12:16:52 am »

Kurtulmak is a mod on the Slaves to Armok board IIRC, so he must be associated with Toady/ThreeToe somehow.
He has to be.  He's the only one to verbally castigate Threetoe and live.

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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #48 on: September 18, 2014, 12:18:03 am »

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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #49 on: September 18, 2014, 12:19:41 am »

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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #50 on: September 18, 2014, 12:24:50 am »

Among the passwords I use:
One would take 12 months to decode.
Another, 92 years.
And then another would take centuries.
And another 3 years.
So yeah, I feel pretty secure.
One of my passwords take longer than the universe's age to crack.
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #51 on: September 18, 2014, 01:04:47 am »

Kurtulmak is a mod on the Slaves to Armok board IIRC, so he must be associated with Toady/ThreeToe somehow.
He has to be.  He's the only one to verbally castigate Threetoe and live.
Link or gtfo. I have to see this now.
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #53 on: September 18, 2014, 01:20:07 am »

Well. It's weird seeing ToeThree behaving like any other forumgoer, and not the all powerful God-Man he is today.
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2014, 02:00:28 am »

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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2014, 09:24:15 am »

But wouldn't "@battery 20staple14 correct#horse" dodge a dictionary cracker? I have no idea how this works, so I'm genuinely curious.
Partially. But a good password cracker mixes things up. Also, while some things look more obscure that others, this is just a human thing. To measure the actual security you would use what is called "entropy": it essentially measures how likely that string is to occur by chance. But note that "by chance" does not mean "just roll a dice for each letter", but "how often does it appear in nature" (where "nature" is some setting you use, e.g. "all data on the internet"). Thus your dice show letters, but also words or other common sequences, each with their own probability coming from reality.

The string "battery correct horse staple" has pretty low entropy as it, as demonstrated by this thread, occurs quite often. The string "quantum dwarf house thorn" would be much better (but lost a lot due to now being mentioned here). For similiar reasons, using 100 consecutive letters from your book of choice is not much better than using 1000 consecutive letters instead: both appeared at least once, and probably the same number of times each, making them almost equally good.

On a similiar matter, adding just some numbers at the beggining and end of a password does not have any more effect than just adding one or two english words at the end, unless the added words are in a rather common position (e.g.: extending "crocodile ocean yellow" by "submarine" is probably worse than using "air", despite the difference in lengths).
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2014, 09:58:10 am »

Neat tool, good news is variants of the passwords and style I use are all 'centuries' to crack (made up passwords in same style just to make sure I wasn't inputting my actual passwords of course due to extra paranoia).
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2014, 07:07:10 am »

But if you lost the note with the password on it then you're boned.
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Re: Over 5 million Gmail accounts compromised
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2014, 11:34:44 am »

You are too late! Said comic was already linked on page 3! :P
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