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Author Topic: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014  (Read 33644 times)

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #210 on: September 18, 2014, 07:43:07 pm »

It's also a pretty small percent of population, isn't it? So such a small group shouldn't weigh your opinion on the whole matter.
It's not a big information point, but it's the only one so far, and it did go against expectation.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #211 on: September 18, 2014, 07:43:32 pm »

It's also a pretty small percent of population, isn't it? So such a small group shouldn't weigh your opinion on the whole matter.

I think it's a bit interesting because many predicted the yes vote to win there. The fact that it swung the other way might be indicative of a swing towards no nationwide
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #212 on: September 18, 2014, 07:50:51 pm »

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #213 on: September 18, 2014, 07:51:55 pm »

It's also a pretty small percent of population, isn't it? So such a small group shouldn't weigh your opinion on the whole matter.
Well, it's a small percent of the population that was supposed to go decisively Yes, not decisively No as it did.  It's not necessarily indicative of a majority of voters in Scotland, but it does jive with what I've heard about the probable shift in votes relative to the preliminary surveys; to wit, that given the general conduct of a certain particular subset of Yes campaigners, those who would vote No would be less likely to state as such openly, thus skewing polls in favour of Yes.
I wouldn't call that decisive.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #214 on: September 18, 2014, 07:53:44 pm »

Sky News reporting accusations of voter fraud in Glasgow. People showing up to vote and being told they already voted.

Also, turnout appears to be marginally lower in the cities (70-75%) compared to the smaller towns and countryside, where it's in the 80's and 90's.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #215 on: September 18, 2014, 07:54:59 pm »

I suppose so.  My take is probably a bit skewed considering this was supposed to be one of the firmest Yes votes, so for it to go 46%/54% to No is a bit of a surprise.  It's at least twice what I would consider a fine margin. 
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #216 on: September 18, 2014, 07:56:40 pm »

"Yes" campaign unofficially reports West Lothian went for "No", 55-45.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #217 on: September 18, 2014, 08:00:16 pm »

Uh-oh. That's not good.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #218 on: September 18, 2014, 08:02:40 pm »

Orkney votes 4883 yes-10004 no - 67% no
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #219 on: September 18, 2014, 08:03:29 pm »

And so Scotland falls into civil war, leaving us with Yesland and Noland
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #220 on: September 18, 2014, 08:04:59 pm »

My, my.  Orkney's no surprise, given the general trend outside of the Central Belt, but West Lothian's definitely in the same vein as Clackmannanshire.  If someplace like Dundee goes No as well, now, that'll be...well, that'll be something to see. 
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #221 on: September 18, 2014, 08:05:37 pm »

Sad thing is, even at their lowest (58.1% in 2001), Scottish electoral turnout beats American turnout (57.5% in 2012 -- the highest since 1968).

The highest American turnout (since anybody started keeping track in the 1820's) was the 1876 Presidential election between Rutherford B. Hayes and Samuel Tilden, which had 81.8% turnout.


I salute you, you vote-happy Scots.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #222 on: September 18, 2014, 08:07:03 pm »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/scottish-independence-blog/live/2014/sep/18/scottish-referendum-results-live-coverage-of-the-independence-vote

This is a good page to watch if you want the results quickly, they still don't seem to have West Lothian down as official yet.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #223 on: September 18, 2014, 08:09:10 pm »

This is a good page to watch if you want the results quickly, they still don't seem to have West Lothian down as official yet.
That's because it isn't official. The 45-55 results is one of the parties's estimation, not a proper result.

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #224 on: September 18, 2014, 08:10:47 pm »

This is a good page to watch if you want the results quickly, they still don't seem to have West Lothian down as official yet.
That's because it isn't official. The 55-55 results is one of the parties's estimation, not a proper result.
More of that 110% effort? ;)

I'd be curious to know why Orkney was a given for the "No" vote. I'd have thought the opposite, given the remoteness from England and the deep Nordic roots.
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