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Author Topic: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014  (Read 33010 times)

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2014, 10:38:09 pm »

George Osbourne has threatened that monetary union may not be possible if the Scots leave. Anonymous responds.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 10:51:16 pm »

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 11:07:31 pm »

George Osbourne has threatened that monetary union may not be possible if the Scots leave. Anonymous responds.

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 11:09:46 pm »

Guido Fawkes is actually a political blogger, not part of anonymous (his name actually predates the V for Vendetta movie).
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2014, 11:20:45 pm »

I support Scottish independence despite not being Scottish because fuck England.


Seriously though, I don't think either choice is significantly better than the other.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2014, 11:48:07 pm »

George Osbourne has threatened that monetary union may not be possible if the Scots leave. Anonymous responds.

That's not a threat, that's pointing out basic economic truths that are absolutely essential to this debate.  Scotland staying on the pound would be unambiguously a bad idea.

This debate is downright scary.  Because everyone underestimated the independence crowd the technocrats never bothered to chime in with advice about what they saw as unlikely independence.  Now we've got a situation where the independence crowd is saying things that are horribly, horribly misguided like it would be a good idea for Scotland to stay on the pound.  They should know better on the eve of the vote.  I just can't find the words to explain how scary it is to think that people might be running a country when they can't get the easy but super important parts right.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2014, 12:11:25 am »

Guido Fawkes is actually a political blogger, not part of anonymous (his name actually predates the V for Vendetta movie).
So, um, Guy/Guido Fawkes was a real guy.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2014, 12:33:02 am »

I assume Guido Fawkes is a pun on Guy Fawkes, and as such when someone is referring to Guido Fawkes they probably aren't referring to Guy Fawkes.
E: Also, good luck on the vote.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2014, 12:33:13 am »

I don't understand why we had to fight a bloody, drawn out war over this, and yet Scotland gets to just take a vote and go have a lemonade...? Isn't it generally not OK to just go and secede?
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2014, 12:34:38 am »

I don't understand why we had to fight a bloody, drawn out war over this, and yet Scotland gets to just take a vote and go have a lemonade...? Isn't it generally not OK to just go and secede?

Look at the circumstances/terms under which the UK was founded.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2014, 12:39:11 am »

So, um, Guy/Guido Fawkes was a real guy.
Yes but the "anonymous as Guy Fawkes" thing stems purely from the movie.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2014, 12:43:12 am »

As a fellow Scot, I haven't the faintest idea which way to vote - the somewhat romantic notions of "we should make our own choices/fuckups!" and "Freedom!!!" don't particularly hold sway with me, and it doesn't seem even the experts that have spent their entire adult lives studying economics etc can agree on whether my life will be more or less comfortable under either scenario.  My suspicion is little will change either way (at least, no more than it usually does).

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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2014, 12:55:51 am »

If Scotland secedes, then I hope they get into the EU, otherwise they're going to have to set up a border with expensive checkpoints and security. And unfortunately, Spain will probably be dead-set against an independent Scotland in the EU because they're trying to prevent the Basque from seceding.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2014, 12:59:41 am »

My general support for secessionism and decentralization in general makes me hope Yes wins, but I simply can't see No not pulling off a Quebec and winning in the end. Still, I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Scotland Decides, 18th September, 2014
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2014, 01:26:51 am »

As an American descended from British stock, I wish Scotland the best of luck in their vote for independence. I've heard that the voting turnout might approach 100%.
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