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[Vitellozzo]

Waspen buckler can be, then!

weird. you should be able to build it in the carpenter or in the forge, like any other shield. In fact, I tried it out and it worked...

wait, you updated? you can't change entity files in a save, game, that's why it's not in your game.

Yeah, I figured it even if I updated the raw folder... Starting a new world now.

:edit: btw, the manual mention the stinger colony... how to make it, since nowhere it says how to?
Also, do it have any uses aside from stinger thralls?

[than402]

yes, it is used in the Grower. It's made in the Fleshwarper's Lab using 2 tallows, 8 meats and 2 paper cement blocks. the manual really could do with some hyperlinks, couldn't it?

also, I fixed the trading bugs for real this time and added a bunch of other stone and gem shapes

does anyone know how I can make it like the rest of the race manuals?

[Meph]

Yes, you download the current manual, copy one part and add change the text and pictures. Its only html that you need to read through.

[than402]

I... am a noob as far as google sites go, so I don't even know how to download it. But hey, I learned to use the table of contents and headings, so we'll have easy navigation after all

[than402]

ok, now the manual has links for easier navigation and info about the new buckler.

also, I fixed the "crafts to gems" bug. Once I add the clothing heydude suggested, I'll upload yet another version. Whoever had hives won't need to generate a new world for the trading and the crafts bug fixes, but the new clothes will require a new worldgen.

also, do we have any more suggestions about more clothes?

[Meph]

I... am a noob as far as google sites go, so I don't even know how to download it. But hey, I learned to use the table of contents and headings, so we'll have easy navigation after all

What google sites?

Its completely offline. The files are in MasterworkDwarfFortress/repository.

[than402]

https://sites.google.com/site/hivemanual2/home

I meant this one... I installed links, but now I'm not sure what I must do to add our manual to the download link

[Meph]

No idea, I never used this.

[heydude6]

Anyway after looking through the manual again I found a bunch of errors that I would like to point out and hopefully get fixed.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Metallurgist still mentions patter-welded metals(they don't exist anymore)

Kitchen talks about glue and book-binding. Although we do have a use for glue we do not have bookbinding

Tanner talks about the library which we don't have , also mentions quills

Chitinworker is mentioned twice

In getting started you mentioned the miller as the labor required for paper cement even though miller is what is currently being used for archeology. Also in the buildings tab it mentions pressing as the cement making labour. Currently PROCESSPLANTS or (thresher,miller,presser) is the "milling" labour in masterwork. Also the vanilla pressing labour is invention and research

Shrine to the depths typo on buildings tab. "Beware, because with the exception of the aberrant (which is completely safe)". It should be aberrants and is should be are.

Laboratory building description typo:  Each attribute upgrade consume Fleshwarper's reagents. It should be consumes

In the pets section there is a typo in the hive thralls description. This "A husk animated by a colony of red wasps lives within them. Wasps use them as cannon fodder and they burst upon they." should be this "A husk animated by a colony of red wasps that lives inside it. Wasps use them as cannon fodder and they burst upon reaching their prey"

Stinger thralls grammer mistake. replace description with this instead. "A husk animated by a colony of stingers that lives inside it. They are more capable close combat troops than Red Wasp Thralls, and when wasps have access to warpstone, they can be mutated into even more dangerous forms."


doomweaver typo: "and can spray web." It should be webs.

Imperial scorpion typo: "A gargantuan scorpion (noticed a patter yet?)."

golden centipede grammar mistake: "It has a paralyzing venom" Although "a" is fine it is more gramatically correct to just not have an "a" there.

earth elemental typo:"Earth Elementals possess bodies made entirely out of marvel" It's supposed to be spelled marble

abherrant typo: "either fall prey to the monsters that lurk there of captured and used as cannon fodder by other hives." Add a comma at the end of lurk there and replace of with or.

Typo in the getting started section:

SKILLS:

"Personally, I don't like spending too many points on skills. Since wasps don't live for too long, you might not want either." You should replace either with any. Also I personally believe that mechanic is a very important skill to get in order to build cage traps as soon as possible.

This is a bit confusing to understand:
Pottery(Writing on the embark screen and in Therapist) is also important, since it improves the quality of the stuff you produce at the Wood Pulper. (What does pottery have to do with wood pulping?)

another typo:
"In any case, remember to always look the castes of your wasps." Replace look with check.

This fact is no longer true:
Finally slaves are the only waspen "pet"(by a loose definition of the word) to reproduce without eggs,

typo:
and more improtantly, can be used at the Infectory. You misspelled importantly

Typo found in "step 2 setting up a hive"
Thes things are the same for most races

Typo found in the running a laboratory section of the getting started tab
"Size increase: It requires warpstones." It only needs to be warpstone, no plural required since it's singular form is also a plural form (an example is sheep) The same applies for armour increase

Untrue fact found in chapter 6 of the getting started section

"When the larva bites the host and if the host doesn't bleed out, he will turn passive." I did not design the host to turn passive. What should happen is that the larva bites the host, the larva dies, and then the host is left locked in a room until he transforms into a wasp himself. Unless of course you programmed it to turn passive, then my apologies.

Okay, those are all of the errors I managed to find while looking through the manual. Than, I understand that you aren't a native english speaker so I hope that this helps you.

EDIT: Also small suggestion for the defender name. Maybe we can call them waspen bracers? I don't think we should call them waspen bucklers since people will assume that they are just like vanilla bucklers

[than402]

thanks, heydude. I'll get on with fixing them.

Pottery(Writing on the embark screen and in Therapist) is also important, since it improves the quality of the stuff you produce at the Wood Pulper. (What does pottery have to do with wood pulping?)

nothing. but I imagine cement working (still a typo, though, since I mentioned the wrong building) as being similar to pottery, so I gave them the (currently not used) pottery skill

In getting started you mentioned the miller as the labor required for paper cement even though miller is what is currently being used for archeology. Also in the buildings tab it mentions pressing as the cement making labour. Currently PROCESSPLANTS or (thresher,miller,presser) is the "milling" labour in masterwork. Also the vanilla pressing labour is invention and research

archeology uses the vanilla miller, while the masterwork miller is the thresher. I should clarify that better.

I still don't know what we should do with the pressing labor. Also, since we don't use certain labors, I suggest removing them altogether from the entity file. Pressing is a good example of that. Right now they only serve to make some migrants useless and make the embark screen confusing.

waspen bracers, why not? I want to run it a few more before I release it, though. I found and fixed several bugs already, and my hive has reached a point where I can finally try out the rest of our features. I want to make sure everything works as intended for the next release.

[than402]

I made yet another test hive. I have already been attacked by the dwarves and the elves. I captured 6 elves (larva fodder or gladiators? that is the question) and had the chance to test the slings in the field: they caused fractures, never killed anyone but I was using literally the cheapest weapons in the race (maybe even in the masterwork mod, we're talking a piece of cloth and some boulders here!), so I wasn't expecting much. The elves almost starved me to death, though. Cockroaches are lifesavers. I spotted yet another bug with the grower and some more reactions that require souls (which I will remove to preserve potential players' sanity)

All in all, though, it's a fun run. I build a tavern, bedrooms and caught and tamed some monkeys! I also captured a nymph and I'm still considering what I should do with her. Maybe decoration, nymphs are far too rare and fanciful to be used as larva fodder. No game breaking bugs yet, which is good because it means there are not many of them left (if any). My plan is to test the lab reactions and build a Shrine and a Hive Caller to test these things too. Once I complete them and manage to successfully summon a Golden Centipede, I will write down my findings and release the next update with all the new bug fixes.

[than402]

ok, I completed my test run. I managed to summon the centipede, which was as difficult as I expected, gave many features a test run and fought and smashed 3 human and elven sieges with my elite force of five legendary, mithril bearing sword and spearwasps. I fixed a lot of bugs I found (no doubt there are more, but the list is only getting smaller each time, and this time it got significantly smaller), made a few tweaks where I found it necessary and expanded the wasps' options on gem shapes and clothing.

I had some troubles and some pretty frustrating bugs here and there (mostly when a reaction required a wrong reagent or gave a wrong product), but all in all the race was quite playable and it's even better now with this new update:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9734

heydude, I removed the Glazing and the Pressing skills, since wasps don't use these but still showed up as migrant skills. That means we'll only need sprites for them when we port the race to the new edition

[Vitellozzo]

ok, I completed my test run. I managed to summon the centipede, which was as difficult as I expected, gave many features a test run and fought and smashed 3 human and elven sieges with my elite force of five legendary, mithril bearing sword and spearwasps. I fixed a lot of bugs I found (no doubt there are more, but the list is only getting smaller each time, and this time it got significantly smaller), made a few tweaks where I found it necessary and expanded the wasps' options on gem shapes and clothing.

I had some troubles and some pretty frustrating bugs here and there (mostly when a reaction required a wrong reagent or gave a wrong product), but all in all the race was quite playable and it's even better now with this new update:

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9734

heydude, I removed the Glazing and the Pressing skills, since wasps don't use these but still showed up as migrant skills. That means we'll only need sprites for them when we port the race to the new edition

How are you making militia, man? Since soldiers and workers, I find it pretty difficult to settle a stable militia in the whole game.
And until legendary, too?!? In just two days?
I have still things to learn...

[than402]

I use Tweak military-training to make my training drills actually train, and I got lucky with the migrant waves and got 5 soldier castes by the second year.

[Vitellozzo]

I use Tweak military-training to make my training drills actually train, and I got lucky with the migrant waves and got 5 soldier castes by the second year.

Mmmh... it's safe/right to use? I always try to stay away from overpowered gamebreaking stuff... but militia really takes years to just get a +1 in skills...

Also, I would like to know if there could be a workaround from making wasps transform into a metal-stinger caste, fully healing those. That's because I really think of that skill as a heal-all ability, using just a metal bar in the process. It's simple too good, and after those first fights tend to overstress and disassembe my wasps, so using that one both strenght them and fully heal them.