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[than402]

well, at least human body can digest alcohol if you swallow some by accident...

[Splint]

I just want to say on a Beast cave/tunnel, requiring souls seems a bit redundant. The Insects aren't being created per se (like say a Warlock skeleton, which needs a soul to power it,) more lured in by a big heaping bag of delicious meaty goodness wrapped in an edible (to them) bag judging by the description.

Ideas in that regard as well as others

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Large Arthropods: Trapavoid due to thier sheer weight preventing traps from functioning properly.
Colossal Boulder Bug: Take the normal one dwarves often have, make it huge, and make it very ill-tempered Their description does say they can grow to great size as they age after all, and they'll probably be more belligerent as a result given thier environment. They'll need plant products since they're grazers if I recall right. Possesses a "thrown boulder" emission attack to supplement its venerable bulk.
Giant Cave Lobster: Lobsters are assholes, especially to other lobsters and predators. Lobsters that routinely kick the crap out of both other lobsters and predators tend to live an extremely long time, and grow to a frightening size. This is the logical conclusion and possibly a dwarven chef's nightmare. Watch out for those pincers, because one may decide it doesn't want to share your hive.
Doomweaver: An underground relative to the Nightweavers found elsewhere that are often quite large. While Doomweavers lack poisons, their sheer size, bite strength, and webs make them a deadly asset to the hive, if they decide not to make a snack of your wasps instead.

Hive and Former Hive creatures
Hive Praetorian: Aforementioned result of using live hosts for reproduction, with one in 20 resulting in a praetorian. Just wanted to throw out a name. Some may also be called from the beast caves/tunnels but these strays like anything baited from there, may be hostile.
Aberrant Worker: Vicious and nasty even by hivewasp warrior standards, Mutant Wasps are workers that have gone haywire so to speak, either due to some genetic issue or as a result of thier old hive being destroyed. Established hives may lure these now-savage facsimiles of proper hivewasps and use them as cannon fodder, as they respond only to the most basic of commands to go here or there from other hives. Unlike most other lured beasts, they only require a small amount of meat for bait. Highest chance to spawn "feral" and attack the bait layer on sight, but they aren't trapavoid.
Deathweaver: A wasp warrior who has traded thier stings for spinnerets, using souls and silk to force the change. It's dangerous to deploy these with non Deathweaver units, as enemies may become unsnared faster and kill your warriors.
Pyresting: Contrary to the name, they don't use a burning sting, but using souls and plump helmets have effected a mutation giving them flame resistant chitin and the ability to torch the hive's enemies.
Searskin Wasp: Using souls and warpstone, Searskins have gained the ability to project debilitating and potentially lethal acid akin to a dwarven acid turret, effectively necrotizing and dissolving the skin of an enemy. The attack is short range and dangerous to friend and foe alike unless said friends are other Searskin Wasps but just like Deathweavers and Pyrestings, potentially very powerful.
Purelung: Using souls, cloth, and charcoal (essentially the components for a crude air filter,) a warrior renders itself immune to inhaled toxins and smoke, making them excellent choices to face certain kinds of FB/Titan/Demon.

As stated, these are simple ideas, with several based on a soul-powered mutation lab, with the result being niche warriors that can be used against regular foes to great affect (Deathweavers,) or against specific threats (Purelungs,) as well as several large and grumpy arthropods and an arachnid and a canon fodder unit that can be summoned in large numbers to be sicced on enemies or used as practice dummies for your warriors.

[than402]

thank you, Splint. those were some really good ideas, although deathweavers sound a bit overpowered (webimmune and web throwing close quarter units sound a bit too strong, that's the reason GCS and web throwing forgotten beasts are so feared, with the added advantage of reasonable numbers and weapons).

the reason the tunnel uses souls is because they are relatively hard to obtain in large quantities and the tunnel is actually something between a shrine and a tunnel. it will be named Shrine To The Depths, and some of the things you'll be able to summon won't even be insects. therefore, some things like Earth Elementals, enormous insects (which the wasps see as deities) and the Tarrasque (if you're really rich and powerful/a masochist who wants to risk drawing a feral and then having that thing running around your map) will require souls, and others like the praetoriants, the lobster and the aberrants won't.

[Splint]

Deathweavers are ones I'd just assume would require a very hefty soul-based price tag compared to Purelungs, Searskins, or Pyrestings and possibly need some quantity of stable warpstone or some other resource as well just to balance things out and make them harder to obtain, since I concede, they do have a greater utility over the others.
It just seemed fitting that an insect race would see value in warriors able to safely (for a certain definition of safe if they're fighting a monstrous critter like an FB or Doomweaver,) traverse web-laden environments.

Shrine/Tunnel: Ah, the only post I saw beforehand mentioned using souls in calling large and nasty things that logically wouldn't need souls. But bringing in certain large and nasty (as well as possible soul-eating,) abominations or forming elementals using them sounds like a neat idea.

[than402]

Deathweavers are ones I'd just assume would require a very hefty soul-based price tag compared to Purelungs, Searskins, or Pyrestings and possibly need some quantity of stable warpstone or some other resource as well just to balance things out and make them harder to obtain, since I concede, they do have a greater utility over the others.
It just seemed fitting that an insect race would see value in warriors able to safely (for a certain definition of safe if they're fighting a monstrous critter like an FB or Doomweaver,) traverse web-laden environments.

adding webimmune is not an issue(in fact, it's a great idea, considering they already have means to web their traps). it's the spraying part that i think is a bit OP.granted, they already have web laying spiders, but they're really small, weak and generally ill suited for combat: one bolt and they're either dead or unconscious. but with a hefty enough cost maybe it can be balanced.

Shrine/Tunnel: Ah, the only post I saw beforehand mentioned using souls in calling large and nasty things that logically wouldn't need souls. But bringing in certain large and nasty (as well as possible soul-eating,) abominations or forming elementals using them sounds like a neat idea.

yeah, in the beginning i didn't even though souls as a reagent. insane proposed them, and i though it might balance the whose system. the souls are meant as sacrifices, not as bait. the wasps see the things they call as gods, after all (which makes it even more hilarious when a feral fire wyrm comes and burns the hive to dust. divine judgement made manifest!)

[Meph]

You can reactions that give them a "one-shot" webbing ability. Wasp does reaction, gets the ability, it can be used for one year, but has a waiting time of over one year. Results in the wasp using it first thing in combat, but cant use it again, till the interaction experires.

[than402]

that sounds balanced, actually. thanks, Meph.how much is a year in ticks? i mean, what value must i put in WAIT_PERIOD?

[Meph]

~400.000, the wiki has more detailed numbers.

[than402]

and now i know. thanks.

[heydude6]

Hey guys I'm trying to write the interaction that makes the drone die after it fertilizes an egg and there seems to be something wrong with the syndrome,

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[INTERACTION:PATRICIDE]
   [I_SOURCE:CREATURE_ACTION][I_TARGET:A:CREATURE]
   [IT_LOCATION:CONTEXT_CREATURE]
   [I_EFFECT:ADD_SYNDROME][IE_TARGET:A][IE_ARENA_NAME:Dying] [IE_IMMEDIATE]
   [SYNDROME]
      [SYN_NAME:Dying for the swarm]
              [SYN_AFFECTED_CREATURE:HIVEMIND_WASP:DRONE]
             [CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:SEV:1000:PROB:100:BP:BY_TOKEN:BRAIN:START:500]
      

here's the errorlog again

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*** Error(s) found in the file "raw/objects/interaction_eggs.txt"
Unrecognized CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION token: 500

[than402]

try writing it like this:

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             [CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:SEV:1000:PROB:100:BP:BY_TOKEN:BRAIN:ALL:START:500]

if it doesn't work, try using BY_CATEGORY INSTEAD, like that:

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             [CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:SEV:1000:PROB:100:BP:BY_CATEGORY:BRAIN:ALL:START:500]

if that doesn't work either, try writing it like this

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             [CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION:BP:BY_TOKEN:BRAIN:ALL:SEV:1000:PROB:100:START:500]

[than402]

i uploaded the new workshops, and fixed some bugs i found. now we must balance the many pets wasps have, and properly calculate the costs of the Shrine reactions.

[Insanegame27]

I'm thinking a reaction called "pay homage to the god(ess) of beasts" should have an uncommon chance to spawn a random tamed animal, with a rare chance of it being spawned savage. uses meat and a soul

[than402]

that's pretty much what i did. it requires souls, too. 35% of spawning an untameable, webimmune and trapavoid monster to wreck your base, 65% chance of spawning the same beast to wreck your enemies. you mean a generalized reaction that causes random stuff to happen?

[Insanegame27]

that's pretty much what i did. it requires souls, too. 35% of spawning an untameable, webimmune and trapavoid monster to wreck your base, 65% chance of spawning the same beast to wreck your enemies. you mean a generalized reaction that causes random stuff to happen?

All the stuff in the above posts AND the reaction

I'm thinking a reaction called "pay homage to the god(ess) of beasts" should have an uncommon chance to spawn a random tamed animal, with a rare chance of it being spawned savage. uses meat and a soul

of spawning a random wild animal, you're just as likely to end up with a hawk or falcon or GCS or dragltha