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[than402]

yeah, good point.

EDIT: i updated the file.

[than402]

so, aside from updating the manual, i was thinking that it's time we work on mid-late game stuff. and i say we start by working on smake's suggestion and expand the wood pulper into something usable even after you expand your fort. i was thinking that apart from the paper cement. i was thinking,however, that instead of other plant matter we could add grinded metals or gems to create more types of paper cement with higher economic value.

for example, silver cement: one log and one bar worth of grinded silver, and you get 4-6 blocks of silver cement: four value blocks that you can use to quickly raise the value of rooms, or craft better goods: a reaction that uses silver cement to create a craft costs 2 blocks and has a value of 4. a silver bar costs 1 bar and has a value of 10. instead of having one silver craft, you now have two cheaper crafts, but you done that by using a skill that you're more likely to have at high levels at this point and with no fuel consumed. and there's a significant possibility that you'll receive more than four.

obviously, this only makes sense for expensive metals. i mean iron value and above

so, shall i do it?

[Insanegame27]

yes

[heydude6]

small question, have you made it possible to make beds, furniture,crafts, etc. out of the wood cement yet? That should be the main priority

[than402]

yes, i did. it's in the wood pulper, but i'm gonna split the buildings after that

[than402]

Updated the manual and uploaded the new file with the new cements

[heydude6]

Ok guys I have a question. As you know I am drawing the sprites for this mod. Small question. Do the wasps have Armour? I need to know so I can draw the military units. Also what kind of armour is it?

[Insanegame27]

The armour IRL

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Just ignore the immature stuff

[heydude6]

anyways I finished drawing all of the military sprites so now I have a question, which of these 2 sprites should be the militia commander?



I say make it a poll

[than402]

i like the black one better, but yeah. poll would be a nice idea

[Insanegame27]

Poll is up.

[than402]

in the meantime, let's brainstorm some more mid/late game stuff, because once heydude finishes the sprites and the reproduction, we basically have the main infrastructure of the mod ready. so here's what i thought:

 i was thinking... a huge, expensive to create and to use "workshop" called Beast Cave or something, that lets you summon big bugs. and i'm talking really, really big and nasty bugs. megabeast sized. the catch is, they are trap and web immune. and every time you call one you have a chance to summon a feral one instead. it's just like the regular ones, just opposed to life.

and a way to "modify" your wasps and your pets other than coating their stings. maybe a forge called a "mutation lab" that uses souls (we haven't found a way to use them yet, after all). each modification costs a certain number of souls depending on how big it is. and i' m saying modification instead of upgrade because each one carries a downside: you can make them breathe fire... in a mostly flammable hive, so careful with that. or you can make them faster, but more fragile, much tougher but slower too, stronger but prone to fits of rage... you get the idea. basically you give something and take something equal in exchange.

i have something else in mind too, but it needs the reproduction system to be completed first.

[Insanegame27]

i was thinking... a huge, expensive to create and to use "workshop" called Beast Cave or something, that lets you summon big bugs. and i'm talking really, really big and nasty bugs. megabeast sized. the catch is, they are trap and web immune. and every time you call one you have a chance to summon a feral one instead. it's just like the regular ones, just opposed to life.

Very cool Idea. Do It. The megabeast-bugs should need HEAPS of souls, plus leather/skin + meat + other life-related stuff. Bonus points if you can make a fire-breathing one utilise alcohol in it's creation

and a way to "modify" your wasps and your pets other than coating their stings. maybe a forge called a "mutation lab" that uses souls (we haven't found a way to use them yet, after all). each modification costs a certain number of souls depending on how big it is. and i' m saying modification instead of upgrade because each one carries a downside: you can make them breathe fire... in a mostly flammable hive, so careful with that. or you can make them faster, but more fragile, much tougher but slower too, stronger but prone to fits of rage... you get the idea. basically you give something and take something equal in exchange.

Again, Do It. Again, bumus points for alcohol in fire, which leads to a RL story of mine

i have something else in mind too, but it needs the reproduction system to be completed first.

I am interested in any Ideas. Tell me the idea

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My big brother breathes fire by rinsing his mouth with kerosine, then raising a firestaff to his mouth and spitting(for lack of a better word) into the flame. He's on youtube doing it somewhere on a beach in a city. I'll try and find the video.

[than402]

I am interested in any Ideas. Tell me the idea

since wasp reproduction is based on parasitism, i was thinking creating some sort of uber wasp by captured humanoid megabeasts. sterile, humongous and armed with nasty claws, strong bite, hard chitin and a bad attitude. this wasp will be considered a pet (and will be another creature in the raws, actually) and will be genderless.

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My big brother breathes fire by rinsing his mouth with kerosine, then raising a firestaff to his mouth and spitting(for lack of a better word) into the flame. He's on youtube doing it somewhere on a beach in a city. I'll try and find the video.

that's really interesting. wouldn't vodka or something like that be safer, however?

[Insanegame27]

Kero works better

And since when is ANYTHING utilising fire safe? ESPECIALLY in real life, but also in DF