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[jei]

Can GCS be milked or is it still usable in silk factory by other means?
I got one, let it out behind fortifications, but the bastard isn't spitting any silk. :/

I used to have massive silk industries in previous versions of the game a few years ago.
Though, I think I pitted the bastard then and it was mad as hell. Started spitting right away.
This one was just levered out of cage. No dwarven contact thus far.

[ancient_vampire]

in my silkfarm only gobbos start the silk spamming. She refused to shoot on hunting dogs, cats, trolls and peafowls.

[khearn]

There have been a few threads about the changes to silk farming in 40.xx lately.

[Hans Lemurson]

Would a Tame GCS and a Wild GCS start a web-fight with each other?

[Mimodo]

Would a Tame GCS and a Wild GCS start a web-fight with each other?

That would be awesome! Now to find me another GCS!

On the original topic, Jei, I've had the same problems with making a silk farm work...

If you're using a wild GCS (like me), I've found that only military dwarves reliably force the GCS to shoot webs. A chained war dog didn't work, neither did he work pastured. Not even a regular dwarf, enticed close with a "pull lever/r" task would make the bastard shoot.

What I do is keep the GCS behind a line of fortifications, and a raising bridge, with a way to recapture. When the bridge is lowered, station military dwarf nearby. GCS shoots him and fills the room with webs. Raise bridge, and get rid of military, then the weavers will come and grab all the webs.

It requires a bit of micromanagement, but in the end it's definitely worth the effort. Since I got this sorted out, I've been making masterwork silk clothing constantly

[jei]

It requires a bit of micromanagement, but in the end it's definitely worth the effort. Since I got this sorted out, I've been making masterwork silk clothing constantly

Yeah, it's like winning the lottery, endless-money-wise. Which is why it's always one of my fortress' goals.

Also, don't forget you should be able to use it to capture and cage FBs too, with GCS-web-covered cage traps.
(Or is it still possible?) At least last time I played, webbed cage traps drew dwarves into them, even from farther
away, and if GCS was spitting, a couple times through the fortifications too.

A lot of micromanagement to get FBs into those traps though.

And beware of crossbowmen. Last time, one casually put an end to my GCS with a single shot.

I don't want my own to make the GCS their enemy any more, if I can avoid it somehow. Too many well trained crossbowmen,
and losing an endless-money-making-GCS kind of hurt last time, after getting used to living in endless luxury... especially
since this is a mineral poor galena-only territory.

Stationing an unarmed military dwarf behind fortifications in sight of the GCS seems to do the trick without much trouble.

[MDFification]

If you somehow manage to cage a web-spewing clown: Clown Webs are actually fireproof.

[wierd]

sadly, clown silk get the "vermin silk" unit price per bolt of cloth. not "worth" very much.

you would think that silk of such unusual character would fetch a high price for its properties and exotic nature, but no.


GCS is still where the money is, especially when you have moody clothiers.

[martinuzz]

If you somehow manage to cage a web-spewing clown: Clown Webs are actually fireproof.

yay for magma bathing suits.

[jei]

If you somehow manage to cage a web-spewing clown: Clown Webs are actually fireproof.

I wish. My spider queen took an arrow in the knee and I had to retire her for now, to think of better factory structures.
But great idea, thanks.

[bluephoenix]

Making a GCS silk farm is pretty awesome but why would you do it in 40.xx? There are so many vermin cave spiders in the caverns, the whole cavern will be filled to the brim with webs you will have enough to last for centuries.

[IndigoFenix]

It seems that creatures with interactions using the 'attack' hint only use them when they are in 'lethal' or 'no quarter' combat.  My guess is that only military dwarves will trigger 'lethal' combat by default.

[GenericOverusedName]

Making a GCS silk farm is pretty awesome but why would you do it in 40.xx? There are so many vermin cave spiders in the caverns, the whole cavern will be filled to the brim with webs you will have enough to last for centuries.

GCS silk is many times more valuable!

[bluephoenix]

Yeah I suppose but the value has been reduced in 40.xx so you can just encrust the piece of clothing with a gem and end up with the same value.

[GenericOverusedName]

I'm pretty sure GCS silk is just as valuable as it was in prior generations, and you can use that gem to encrust the GCS silk item instead and get that much more value out of it.

Some people like to set up extravagant and potentially dangerous farms in order to get the shiny stuff. It's ok. Not everyone has to play the same way.