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Vampirum Fortress?
« on: September 08, 2014, 10:52:14 pm »

So, I've been told it's possible to make a fortress of vampires. I'm trying to set it up now: I have a vampire near the canal, which is pumping from a river, the canal is for a well, and the vampire is surrounded by fortifications, with a ballista aimed at him. So if I forbid all beer, will the thirsty dwarves come drink the vampire infected water? I'll stop letting them drink the vampire water once I have 100 vampire dwarves, I'll unforbid all the alcohol,  so any blood sacks useless migrants I MEAN NORMAL PEOPLE show up to my fortress, containing the well of immortality, they'll be a food supply. My fortress is extremely rich, full of steel, gold, bismuth bronze, and cotton candy, not to mention tons of emeralds, sapphires, multiple diamonds, and rubies. I have a magma facility running, and really, everything else, even defense, is being rather neglected, for a booming metal industry. All I have for defense is a five z's deep, four wide ditch with cage traps and stray grizzlies in the bottom. So who thinks it's a good idea to have a metal rich vampiric fortress?

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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2014, 11:49:03 pm »

Update: The iron ballista bolt through the chest barely made any blood, and the vampire is still happily alive. No blood was spread through the water, so I'll try placing him directly beside the river, then sending another bolt through his chest. Without lungs and a heart, he's totally fine. Dayum, vampires are tough.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2014, 12:09:09 am »

I've been trying to do this myself with moderate success, but it is a blast.

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1.  Put him on a weak spear trap you can activate.  You don't want him to die, just to be a blood reservoir from time to time.
2.  They need to drink the pool of blood, so make sure you can drain it into a single water tile and then put a well on it.
3.  Refresh the bloody water from time to time.

Let me know how this goes.  I got 18 infected once but lost the fort before the experiment really got going.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2014, 12:21:15 am »

So I just put a hole through this guys upper body twice for no reason? Damn. And nobody wonders how this guy is alive. Both his lungs have exploded in gore, his heart is cut open, and all his ribs are broken.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2014, 12:23:59 am »

Is there any way to control a dwarf like in adventure mode, but in fortress mode? I'd love to chain this guy up, make sure he's on one spot, walk over with my axe dwarf, and cut off a hand, switch over to the vampire, and place him in the water. Infinite blood, since I've never seen a vampire die of blood loss. I was a vampire adventurer once, and lost a leg and an arm, didn't die of blood loss.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2014, 09:55:02 am »

I once had a werecrocodile and vampire fortress. I made it to where the vampires lived above ground in a giant cathedral made of obsidian while the werecrocs lived underground in a sewer. Oddly enough, the werecrocs were happy down there because of all the mist. Though the kinder(children) that were above in the cathedral went insane soon after I closed them in.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2014, 05:14:49 pm »

No there is no way to manually control a dwarf, but you can confine one to a 3x3 grid with a chain.  Then perhaps use the spear traps to stab him from time to time, and some kind of cistern to drain the bloody water into a single cell.

Anyone know if I can put a prisoner in a cage and then dump them into a single tile sized deep hole with spikes at the bottom.  Then a simple bucket brigade could fill the pit and presto...vampire well...?

IDK i need to work on my blood letting designs.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2014, 05:18:35 pm »

Ugh... I thought this would be simple. I had a vampire fortress in 34.11, completely by accident. A vampire was ripped in half by a hydra near the water, then my well was full of vampire blood. That was a tough fortress. It took a pair of sieges to finally go even with my military.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2014, 05:28:28 pm »

The most sure-fire way to get a vampire to stand on a specific tile would be to construct a lever there, assign it to him, and put lever-pulling on repeat; then forbid the door he used to get in. However, you'd need to find a creative way to draw blood, such as dropping coins on him (A wishing well!)

Another tactic might be to dig out a 2 by 1 chamber with a door at one end, then disable masonry on all your other dwarves and order a wall constructed on the other end. He takes the job, starts building the wall, you lock the door - and now there's only one square he can stand on.

I belieeeeve a well bucket can descend through a grate; if I'm wrong, you'd need to make your well a few Z levels deep with walls of natural stone, to keep the vamp from climbing out.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2014, 05:31:30 pm »

What I've been doing is putting him near the water reserve, surrounding him on most sides by fortifications, then launching an iron bolt through his chest. The blood doesn't spread, and people aren't turning to vampires.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2014, 05:33:36 pm »

What I've been doing is putting him near the water reserve, surrounding him on most sides by fortifications, then launching an iron bolt through his chest. The blood doesn't spread, and people aren't turning to vampires.

No, it wouldn't. You've got to place him in the tile the well draws from, or have someone track his blood through there.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2014, 05:37:10 pm »

Try an upright spear trap linked to a lever.  Then you have a lever controlled supply.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2014, 05:38:32 pm »

Damb... That's what I used to do. I guess I'll try putting him in a spot as described. Does there need to be water under the well to, or will his blood alone suffice?
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2014, 05:45:40 pm »

There has to be water for people to draw from it, what I'd do is build a new reservoir, spread the blood around, then flood it. He doesn't need to breathe (I think, check on this first. But if he's alive and well with no lungs I'd assume yes) so you can just leave him down there if you want

My concern is, will they still all slow down because of alcohol deprivation, or do they drink and eat to keep up appearances now? I vaguely remember hearing something to that effect.
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Re: Vampirum Fortress?
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2014, 05:53:03 pm »

Build a 3x3 room with upright spear traps in each tile, all linked to a lever. Put the vampire in a squad and station that squad in the room and lock the door. Pull the lever a few times until the vampire bleeds. Now channel a hole down from above in the center tile. Designate it as a pond zone and order your dwarves to fill it up. Now build a well on top.
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