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[Nightscar982]

Plastic sheets are now also a pain in the ass, if this hasn't been said previously :l

[Aklyon]

Its sorta like Rotarycraft, I'd think. Though less 'You can make this supercomplex if you want, or do a bit of math and determine the easiest engine combo to power your contraption without explosions' and more 'You need to do all of this. And all of that. And this block too, but after you use all your materials you'll get this one block that you can use later once you go get more power.'

Also ENR, if its all automated, then how do you input without quarries? :p

[MagmaMcFry]

Oh hey I found K1! It's at 197, -978, up in the air. A few chunks past Sky's base, where it probably went into unloaded territory and deactivated.

[evilnancyreagan]

Why does everyone always forget about IC2's miners?

I prefer turtles for automated mining although, I'd much rather get in the nitty-gritty with a drill and mining laser.

[Nightscar982]

I can't join the server, I got a java.net connect exception thingy

[MagmaMcFry]

That's because I just crashed the server. Apologies.

It's back up now.

[Skyrunner]

IC2 isn't a blight to the modding scene, but it should disappear as fast as possible, for the same reason that it's good that microsoft stopped supporting XP.
This is the makers of this pack adding more BS expensive recipes.

That said, dont use energy frames, use enderIO capacitor banks.

fun fact, you need IC2 energy stuff for that too! Isn't it just lovely?

To the person who said diffefent strokes for different people: nope, this mod pack forces you to do all the mods on the tech tree, so if you want to get a quarry from EnderIO you need midgame Ic2. Lategame energy cell means lategame IC2. Before, all you needed was a Redstone Energy Cell for a resonant enery cell.  It made sense, resonant is the upgrade to redstone in Thermal Expansion. Now, in dark trilogy 1.0.7, you need a MFSU for a Resonant and a MFE for a Redstone energy cell. Which makes no sense cause IC2 makes a point of using its own emeegy system the EU and how does putting 4 enderium around a EU storage device magically make it RF compatible :v  therecipe for MFSU looks wickedly complicated and expensive. It's making me set up a ME system so I'm not tedioused to death.

[Skyrunner]

Unfortunately, shoving IC2 down our collective throats is one of the selling points of Dark Trilogy--making it so that no mod goes unused, at least on the Tech side.

[kilakan]

yeah, unfortuneately I am no longer at the place with my good comp so I can't really play without lagging to death, and beside that I was only just starting on tech but now it seems like a pita

[Reudh]

Oh hey I found K1! It's at 197, -978, up in the air. A few chunks past Sky's base, where it probably went into unloaded territory and deactivated.

Hooray!

Both of the valiant turtles are alive and well. (I have K0 in my possession, courtesy of Alway).

[Skyrunner]

yeah, unfortuneately I am no longer at the place with my good comp so I can't really play without lagging to death, and beside that I was only just starting on tech but now it seems like a pita

i forgot what your minecraft name is... are you Pox or Steady or someone else?

edit: in other news, even more packet loss.

[Aklyon]

When going back a version of a modpack sounds like a god idea (for other than bug-related reasons), they've screwed up something.

[miauw62]

I already found some things pretty grindy BEFORE all these super-duper grindy updates came around.

Minecraft would be better without the crafting imo.

I actually like the IC2 wires, though. Makes you put some more thought into them, but I can see why people dont like them, too.

[Skyrunner]

The only reason I'm making an ME system is because it lets you skip the crafting.

[Sappho]

Wait... If you don't like crafting, then what do you actually do in the game? You're not mining, because you automate that... So that eliminates the Mining and the Crafting...