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[Name Lips]

They're not old enough to chop down, but they're in my way. How do I get rid of them?

[Dryn]

I don't think I have found a sapling in my way before. I am pretty sure I have even built roads on them. To answer your question though, I don't think you can.

[Ravendas]

Yes, everything walks right over them, and you cannot destroy them, short of making that tile a channel, which is just silly and pointless.

So, let it be, but keep an eye on it if its in an important area. As soon as it grows into a tree, then it will block traffic.

[puke]

build a bridge over it, then remove the bridge.

[TerminatorII]

puke will htat work for removing muddy tiles (which have been there for 2+ years)

[puke]

nope.  examine a normal muddy floor tile.  it will say "muddy schist" or something like that.  then examine your permanent muddy tile.  it will just say "dirt" or "mud" or something.  its there to stay.

i think there is a utility to hack them back into regular floor or stone or something, im not sure.

[OldMiner]

quote:Originally posted by TerminatorII:
<STRONG>puke will htat work for removing muddy tiles (which have been there for 2+ years)</STRONG>

It's been a few months since it was posted, but I think this was discussed as being a known bug.  Permanently muddy tiles happen when you muddy an internal tile and then have something grow on it - a shrub which dies and then goes away or a sapling which you later cut down.

I think it was also noted that you could turn a cave tile permanently into grass if you designated it for engraving prior to its becoming muddied, and then it was engraved after becoming muddied.

I also believe Toady noted these as bugs and put them on the to do list.  I don't see this in the requirements list, so maybe it got forgotten...  I tried searching the post, but the inability to search all forums simultaneously is a huge burden.  Not sure what board it was on, and it was likely in November of last year.

Cheers.

[Funkadelic Jive Turkey]

In the meantime, for those who find those tiles really annoying, there's a util. on the wiki to muddy\unmuddy tiles.

Edit: Ack! I read right over puke's post somehow. Yes it exists, it's wonderful for the neurotic.

[ July 09, 2007: Message edited by: Funkadelic Jive Turkey ]

[puke]

okay, asside from the just neurotic, this can really hose a fort.

if the river floods and a plant springs up and you have a perma-muddy tile in the middle of your main hallway leading to your indoor trade depot, you will never get a caravan through because the mudd will block the way.

i guess you can just bridge over the mud, but thats pretty ghetto.

[TerminatorII]

yeah and when it is in the middle of the doorway too...