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[ragincajun]

So, I breach a lake which begins flooding my fortress.  I've about 45 dwarfs going.  We begin salvage operations.  I control the flooding of my fortress, losing only one room and about 60% of the goods in the room that is flooding (moving to a dump pile outside).  In the middle of this calamity, we're attacked by 12 goblins.  No military yet...well four squads that are training but no weapons/gear yet.  I know..I know.  Just hadn't found coal or lignite for fuel yet and not really developed my wood burning yet (too many dwarfs honestly to quickly I was spending more time setting bedrooms..lol).

One breach in my defenses to allow me to handle the flooding and they were in the fortress...and my undergeared military AND all my regular dwarfs rushed to the front lines.  56 on 12...and it was a slaughterhouse.  All dead in one room.  OK, the flooding was FUN, losing to the gobbos not so much.

[Aslandus]

No, it's tons of Fun (That's fun with a capital F)

Welcome to Dwarf Fortress, where one catastrophe is just to weaken you so the next can wipe you out.

[StagnantSoul]

Any true dwarf knows wanton destruction and death only furthers the cause. Each dwarven death opens more knowledge and opportunity for other dwarven lives.

[Cavgunner]

If you actually allowed your fort to be so unsecure that an entire squad of goblins could gain easy access, then that was completely your error.  Considering the ease with which impenetrable walls and drawbridges can be constructed, securing your fort should be the FIRST priority... not building bedrooms.

[ragincajun]

Bedrooms were not the priority in any way.  I was in expansion mode and doing some defense work with a moat and through error punched a hole into my fortress.  At that point I was in recovery mode and trying to salvage the fortress...one decision I made was to breach my wall to allow quick access to building materials which I had to do in order to even have a shot at saving the fortress.  The timing of the attack was just bad luck and my bridges were fine...they came in through the breach I put there intentionally as part of salvage/saving operations.

On another note, just lost another fortress.  This time was bad planning.  I had bridges and they were linked but couldn't get to my burrow/lever in time.  One goblin got past the bridge, we smashed three others when the bridge closed.  The rest were trapped outside and no threat. 

18 dwarfs bumrushed one maul wielding goblin and were slaughtered.  Real early in this fortress...but you would think 18 on 1 could at least get him down and take him out.  Armor or no...understanding I'd lose some.  But a complete wipeout from one goblin? 

[Spectre Incarnate]

Sounds like you had a lot of FUN to me. Having multiple unexpected things happen at the same time is what makes all that FUN.

And you do not have to defend yourself on why the fort fell. There's no competition and there's no right or wrong way to do things. People may *assist and suggest* ideas to help you be more efficient or successful, but you have no obligation to listen to anyone who criticizes your play style or designs.

Some people like to make an impenetrable fortress, buckling down early on. Some people find that boring and like to see how far they can get without much defense at all, or certain types of defenses, or only military...etc. Play how you want and if you screw up, that's a good thing! You're learning for next time. And the next.. and the next...

[StagnantSoul]

Try mixing things up, part of the game is learning new things. While people are off finding some normal defence, like walls, why not try something new?

[PDF urist master]

it is scientifically proven that bad things tend to happen simultaneously, leading to a total breakdown of a once thriving fort. The game always finds ways to surprise you, even when you know the mechanics.

I had a siege once where goblins showed up along with rogue dwarves fighting alongside them. I sealed the fort and managed to shoot all of them down except for one marksdwarf. feeling cocky, I sent all of my soldiers (I had 15 in minimal armor, as it was only the second year) to bumrush him, only for that marksdwarf to go on a martial trance, killing two of my soldiers and heavily wounding another three.

It felt like one of those action movies where the hero, the only one left, pulled a badass last stand despite being grossly overwhelmed, except the hero in this case was Judas.

[StagnantSoul]

Yeah, one dwarf under the right circumstances can outmatch large numbers of other dwarves. A rogue spear master put down half my militia, then killed a sword master to finally fall to a hunter passing by.

[Kamamura]

56 vs 12 healthy, strong dwarves should win using improvised weapons like chairs, tools, etc.

[ragincajun]

56 vs 12 healthy, strong dwarves should win using improvised weapons like chairs, tools, etc.

Hence my concern and consternation...lol

[Nyxalinth]

Sure it was.  Fun isn't always the stuff of Boatmurdered and Syrupleaf, but then, very little is.  Enjoy your Fun for what it is.  Eventually, you will have more epic and entertaining Fun (which is what it seems you mean.  It didn't entertain or amuse you.  I know the feeling).

[TheHossofMoss]

Oh c'mon, I'm sure you had fun watching all your hard work fall to pieces in the end! 

[FoiledFencer]

it is scientifically proven that bad things tend to happen simultaneously, leading to a total breakdown of a once thriving fort. The game always finds ways to surprise you, even when you know the mechanics.

Dwarf Fortress is essentially Entropy: The Game.