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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #270 on: September 29, 2014, 05:30:43 pm »

Ambassador van der Cord, Zimiateos - Humanitarian Committee

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I thank the Assembly Leader for call this Committee to order.

The people of Tyland have gone without international aid for almost 2 weeks, we must Deploy an Agency to provide medical help, food and shelter, as well as the man-power necessary to administer these things efficiently.

In major cities, I propose either setting up camps or temporarily occupying large buildings, such as stadia or concert halls, so we can do all this with a minimum of congestion. For more remote areas, it will be necessary to transport these supplies by either road or air. Given that the infrastructure of Tyland will have likely been compromised by Hurricane Jennifer, the road vehicles must be able to withstand progress over unstable ground, while also having capacity enough to hold the necessary supplies.

My nation of Zimiateos can certainly provide the man-power to bring the aid to the affected people in Tyland, no matter how many bodies are needed.

Will some of the nations in these chambers be willing to donate the necessary food and medicine?

Further, I believe something must be done for the countries which are experiencing... political tension, shall we say. The events in Travaal, Vessmir, Ethivul and the election results in Ulvan are all truly unsettling. There are a number of reasons the events in these nations could be happening: oppression by the ruling classes, not allowing others to express their political will; lack of political representation, the needs of a group or groups of people ignored because there's no-one to listen to them; large gaps in pay between the wealthy and the poor, which engenders resentment if the poorer classes feel the gap cannot be closed; lack of education, either in opportunities or access being denied because of ethnicity or being unable to afford it; even just bog standard corruption. I think we should consider a resolution to address some, or all, of these issues.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #271 on: September 29, 2014, 10:12:50 pm »

Minister Fezzik Uharo — Jegula
: Jegula volunteers 100,000 worth of medicine and food, to start.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #272 on: September 29, 2014, 11:03:53 pm »

"I suppose a contribution of five hundred thousand Avalian dollars from Brennar would not go amiss. The relief effort spend it in whatever manner they deem necessary."
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #273 on: September 30, 2014, 05:08:46 am »

"Due to our SEP policy, New Gavalon cannot directly support the effort to help. I believe that the United Assembly should support the financial need of the Tyland Cysis Agency. The budget is up for discussion and any individual support from countries are up to their ability to provide all the aid they are able to spare. I suggest that the Agency go in as peace keeping force and take no side in war. The only goal is to provide support for thoses that do not want to be in the war and require a sanctuary.

The situation in Ulvan and Ethivul may also need the attention of the humanitarian council."
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #274 on: September 30, 2014, 05:30:23 am »

Sir Gustav Hertmann - Tirinia

To The Humanitarian Committee

"While I appreciate Ambassador Van der Cord's call to deploy an agency, I would like to remind the Humanitarian Committee that no agency exist for deployment and that creating agencies is the prerogative of the Economic Council. Starting a global Program to help refugees might be a better idea."

To the Economic Council

My dear Mohr Diban, we need a standard currency for conducting international trade in. If not a new currency, which one? As for selectively joining the UCM, I oppose. A "pick and choose" approach to trade would be harder to manage and would not bring the true benefits of trade liberalization.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #275 on: September 30, 2014, 05:55:57 am »

Supreme Representative Robert - Avalia : Currently Addressing the Economic Council



Avalia does not see the need, nor the benefit for the creation of an international fiat currency, not backed up by any government. We believe that such a currency would be very susceptible to fluctuations, and would actively endanger international trade rather than aid it.

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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #276 on: September 30, 2014, 05:59:28 am »

Well, it was Avalia who requested a common currency. What does Avalia propose?
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #277 on: September 30, 2014, 06:09:41 am »

Teton supports Tirinias UCM and UAB proposals. The UCM will bring prosperity to all countries and a universal currency will prevent that some countries get advantages they should not have. I second both proposals.

Furthermore we propose that a Trade Agreement between Tyland and Teton is negotiated to trade Weapons, Food and Medicine with Tyland to help them, help themselves. We are willing to send Military, Medical and Agricultural Experts down there for free to help them organize and use the goods we trade with them.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #278 on: September 30, 2014, 08:00:45 am »

I think that, pending the UCM being set-up, we should refrain from creating Trade Agreements. Trade should go through the UCM.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #279 on: September 30, 2014, 08:17:20 am »

I would encourage these chambers not to support Teton's blatant attempt to profit from the crisis faced by the people of Tyland. Something my people have come to learn is that 'free' support, as the ambassador suggests, comes with heavy obligations once the crisis has passed.

The Humanitarian Committee exists to respond to any human crisis affecting the people of this world, and we certainly don't expect to profit from any of the actions we take to help them.


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Given that we presently don't have an agency to provide aid to those suffering in Tyland, we must create a global program that may also salve some of the other problems that the world faces at the moment.

We must be able to provide food and medicine to those that need it, and given that the program will benefit everyone in the world, I would also like to propose that it provide some education for those that would otherwise not receive it, too. If a parent cannot provide food, medicine and education for their child, they can visit a facility this program would set up, allowing their child basic nutritional, medical and educational needs to become a productive member of our global community.

As I mentioned previously, I believe some of the problems facing our world can, at the very least, be cushioned by some degree of education. Indeed, we could even provide an understanding of the political process as part of the curriculum in these facilities, allowing people to know what to expect from their political representatives around the world, and how to voice any concerns they may have to them, as well as letting them know how to nominate themselves or someone they trust to represent them.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #280 on: September 30, 2014, 10:52:10 am »


Trinian Delegate, this would be a special trade arrangement between Tyland and Teton in which Tyland could buy our wares at reduced prices than normal to help them get back on their feet, they are not for free and i have never said that Ambassador van der Cord, i do not believe in handouts they make a person weak and unable to help itself as we can clearly see with your country which is blatantly pushing this agenda to recieve even more development subsidies than it is already recieving from most developed countries in the world. Last i recalled Teton was funnelling BILLIONS into your economy never to be seen again and your country is in an even worse economic shape than before.

No. If we help a country we certainly shouldn't do it for free, trying to pull Tyland or Zimitaeos out of their misery by throwing money,medicine and other services and goods at them isnt gonna help one bit. These countries have to do it themselves to sucessfully function within the world community. Lending them a hand in the process certainly helps but "lifting the athlete" as a teton saying goes will not help them develop into self-sufficient countries.

Now all that aside, the idea of this Trade Agreement between Teton and Tyland was just a basic idea to help the country in the short term, another way to help was to finally set up a UA Military Force which will work as peacekeepers to stop the genocide down there.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #281 on: September 30, 2014, 11:18:01 am »

Supreme Representative Robert - Avalia : Currently Addressing the Economic Council



Avalia did indeed, propose a common currency. It did not propose a currency system where rampant chaos would immediately result because the currency is entirely unsupported.  In addition, Avalia does not see the need to install a Delegate, which might not be knowledgeable about the financial workings of the International market. We propose the following counter-proposal, which focusses more on preparing a common market, rather than trying to brutally enforce it.


On the other hand, I must also strongly criticize the current proposal for the UAB, which as it is currently set up, puts far to much freedom in the hands of a single person. In addition, the bank's mission statements conflict. The primary reasons that some projects that benefit humanity are not funded by corporations, is that these projects do not return a significant, monetary return for the investor. And it is the bank's goal to manage the Assembly's money, not spend it, so it will never be capable of undertaking these endeavors.

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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #282 on: September 30, 2014, 01:23:27 pm »

Morh Diban - Ordia.
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Ordia has no objections to Avalia's current proposals and corrections.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #283 on: September 30, 2014, 03:04:54 pm »

Need I remind the delegate from Teton that they suggested sending experts to the unfortunate nation of Tyland, to provide information and knowledge one would normally have to pay for?

Evidently they also forget the history of my great nation, in which Teton, amongst others, gained almost unhindered access to our many resources through intimidation, bribery and political fudgery in order to fuel their massive manufacturing sector. Perhaps this economic aid you speak of would be better spent actually buying the resources from legitimate Zimiateons at market price, instead of being sent into the hands of corrupt local governments that they installed, who allow you significantly subsidised access to the natural resources you require for your factories, producing goods you then sell for thousands of times of the infinitesimally tiny initial cost? Then we wouldn't have to hear your tired excuses that the money "Zimiateos" receives from you is disappearing into the ether. Perhaps look in your wallet, or the annual accounts of the companies listed in the Teton stock exchange?

Tyland needs aid, and we have a duty to help them. They should not, and are not obligated to pay for anything they receive.
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Re: The United Assembly - Delegating Global Progress
« Reply #284 on: September 30, 2014, 03:33:46 pm »

What a quaint little speech with one little error in it. The Fact that Teton never had any colonies to speak of. The few we had were taken by Olmis in the...i believe it was the third or the fourth world war. So your arguments are unfounded.
Next, yes i offered specialists to actually let them use the stuff they buy from us, that is only logical practice, otherwise why would they buy it if they cant use it. That is not a freebie its an investment. May i further tell you that these corrupt local governments only prove what i am saying? That develoment aid is completely useless since it vanishes down the gutters of YOUR elected officials? And furthermore nobody has ever forced your country to sell those resources...let me rephrase that: nobody has forced your country to sell those resources since tenth or so world war where you gained independence, if you don't want to buy our goods and dont want to sell your resources to us that is your perogative, but don't ever turn the fact that my people managed to amount to something by putting their brains and muscles to use into something deplorable. If Zimiateos ever wants to become more than a backwater hellhole which barely scrapes by it should learn to stop complaining and get its wits together and roll its sleeves up and show the world that it can amount to something, lest the established nations reconsider their chance on colonialism for your own good.
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