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[Mech#4]

From a video I watched, even within a neighbourhood there is loading screens if you go to, say, the house across the street. There also seems to be a lot less customisation of objects than in "The Sims 3". No making beds have wood planking covers or giving people wallpaper patterned clothes.

Edit: Speak of the devil, the video below, done by Robbaz, is the one I watched.

[Xantalos]

This seems to sum it up well.

Oh warning, it's a bit sweary if anyone's sensitive to that sort of thing.

[Kaje]

Have it and playing it, customisation of objects is very - very - streamlined and limited to a handful of colours at most. Loading screens are very annoying, you do load even if you pop across the street. There's now also FAR less to do in the very TINY towns.

It's still addictive, though, and looks great.

[ollobrains]

so glad i now basically hold off buying EA games until the inevitable shatstorm goes up.  I passed simcity 5 ...... and now im bypassing the sims 4, never had any issues with 3 it was a great game but well this one from the youtube channels is to pile more dump on it, basically the EA CEO and company havent learnt a thing..... oh well lots of great indie and AA rather than AAA titles out htere

[timferius]

So, I had a bit with it. So far I'm enjoying it (and my wife says she's having a blast). The UI is nice when you get used to it, finding a few small things here and there (like if you click on the top right corner of the sims icon when at work, you get to select what they're doing at work like in Sims 3). I like the art style, and I'm starting to understand some of the other changes too.

1. The Item customization. Ok, yes, I'd like to see more colour options here, but I do understand why they moved away from the pallet system they had before. There was no incentive to buy expensive walls for example, because you could just buy the cheapest paint and add brick texture to it. I think they're moving away from the toybox feeling of Sims 3 (amassing glorious wealth and friends was too easy).

2. Open neighbourhoods. Did they really add much? They lagged, all the spaces between lots were bland, and driving was a glorified loading screen (that took longer than the ones in sims 4 most times).


Also, on loading times. They are so much better, the game loads faster, and lots load quick enough to not really bother (unlike sims 2, where you never wanted to leave your home lot because it was a 3 minute load). On a standard HDD (SSD going to be installed in a week or two) it took exactly 30 seconds to load from home to a public lot.

I'll post more opinions when I have them.

[Kaje]

If you can pick it up for £20/$30 (you most definitely can, I did. Mexican Origin store for one...) then do so, it's really not a bad game - it's just a little different to 3. Yes, the customisation options and world interaction are lacking - but you know they'll end up being added in via expansion packs later down the line.

[timferius]

I think I can boil it down to this. Sims 3 became a toybox. It had very few game elements, and gave you power to just do whatever was fun for the most part.
Sims 4 feels like they're trying to make it a game again. Balancing the emotions for buffs, things like that. I would say Sims 2 > Sims 4 feels like a more natural transition than Sims 2 > Sims 3. Whether or not this is good depends on the person I think.

[BigD145]

Are you talking load screens from base game sims 3 or heavily expansioned sims 3? Those are two very different times. It's several years so you've probably forgotten which one is which.

I watched a stream yesterday and the load screen were quite long. This was a regular streamer with a crowdfunded computer that's quite a bit better than the one I played 3 on. The open world of 3 let you multitask in larger households with loading screens only between different worlds.

[timferius]

Well as I said, I timed out the lot transitions to exactly 30 seconds on the one I tested. My computer is fairly mid range and I'm running off a standard HDD. I can't remember base Sims 3 load times honestly.

[10ebbor10]

Are you talking load screens from base game sims 3 or heavily expansioned sims 3? Those are two very different times. It's several years so you've probably forgotten which one is which.

I watched a stream yesterday and the load screen were quite long. This was a regular streamer with a crowdfunded computer that's quite a bit better than the one I played 3 on. The open world of 3 let you multitask in larger households with loading screens only between different worlds.

Then again, he was running a stream as well.

On a side note, I don't have the best PC, and I never had any loading issues with Sims 3. Sure the entire thing would take 2-5 minutes to load at start, but that is less immersion breaking than 30 second intermissions every so often.

It did become a rather unstable mess if you added all of the expansion packs.

[Glloyd]

The Sims 4 confirmed for being The Sims.

Oh god. It's worse.

Spoiler: Far (click to show/hide)

Spoiler: worse (click to show/hide)

Ia! Babby ftaghn!

The thing I noticed most was the shitty textures on all the furniture. Hell, the sims look better than everything else in the world. Too good almost, in comparison to everything else's blandness.

[Kaje]

Do you have all textures set to maximum, Glloyd?  They all look fine on mine when maxed out.

[Glloyd]

I was just looking at the pictures that scrdest posted. There's no way I'm buying this game. It's sad though, I've been playing Sims since 1. I kinda grew up with the games, but everything I'm seeing here feels like such a step back, which is a shame for such a well-liked and accessible series of games.

[timferius]

I would recommend demoing it if such an option comes available. Things seem to work as a whole. I'm not ready to recommend a sale to anyone, but I'm not personally disappointed by the purchase.

Edit:
AND I just got an excited text from my wife stating that she discovered sims can eat/drink in the bath. She's definitely enjoying it

[Rakonas]

Wait, so do the people in your mini-neighborhood not even do anything with their lives now or is it just the mini-neighborhood that has active people?