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[PewdsRocks]

Thanks, got all my personal problems taken care of and I got a job that has me excited to go to work every day so I feel confident in taking on one or two games now.

And the chance to stick it to the man can not be passed up. No offense intended Taricus.

[3man75]

Thanks, got all my personal problems taken care of and I got a job that has me excited to go to work every day so I feel confident in taking on one or two games now.

And the chance to stick it to the man can not be passed up. No offense intended Taricus.

Didn't know you had those. anyways glad your happy now.

[Ghazkull]

right now we are full but i can put you in the waitlist for a potential second game. And yes you will start with a focus on the military/government branch you are in and yes you will start wherever the usual main base of that branch is.

[PewdsRocks]

That's great thanks I'll create a sheet tonight or tomorrow so you have an idea of what I plan. If you'd rather I keep it out of the thread I can send it by PM.

[Patrick Hunt]

When I send in money to get reinforcements can I request specific units? Also, do I have an infantry unit between rookie and veteran or just the 2?

[Taricus]

Oooohhh, you guys are gonna start hot eh?

Hope you don't mind my scorching heat 

[Patrick Hunt]

..... Your countering every single move every one of us made on turn 1, we have no possibility of winning this at all if your going to counter our moves before they're even made.

You.could at least let us actually declare hostilities before you crush us.

[Playergamer]

taric, you be screwed m8. the west will freak about you using 5 wings of helis against a small insurgency in a major population center.

[Taricus]

That's why they're guarding Patrick, They're not shooting first. As for the helis, check your fire works on them as well, and I've stated to ghaz that they'll use it to it's full effect.

Besides, given the US's penchant for drone strikes, I don't think a helicopter wing, especially against an assault, is going to really warrant much attention.

[Playergamer]

...well, then, I'm screwed. how could tariq know all of this stuff, ICly, and make the moves to stop it? is tariq magic?

edit: also, yes, I know that helis can use check your fire, and I just realized that it's really, really weird that you can still get 15 damage with helicopters in a city, while doing less collateral damage then basic rjikswacht.

[PewdsRocks]

They're kinda making a fair point Taricus. Your actions are aimed specifically at blocking the actions they've stated, actions that you know nothing about.

Why are you sending attack choppers to a city that's been at peace for years? Or sending massive guard forces to towns and cities that have had no threat made against them now or any time in recent memory?
Or sending patrols into the exact areas they intend to be active in for the first turn?

I don't mean this to be offensive, but your giving them no possibility of success and blatantly using knowledge you don't possess.

[Taricus]

Well, for starters, I was going to run that plan anyway. Regardless of anything else, the fact the isolated rural areas aren't paying their taxes is at the very least a valid concern for sending out troops.

Secondly, they do have a chance. They just have to not blow it by doing stupid shit like say... heading into important urban areas the government would actually care about?

Thirdly, I do doubt there is much in the way of realism, given the artillery ranges along with the fact a PMC can spawn in the middle of nowhere.

[Playergamer]

Not paying their taxes starting a second ago, though. Azbath isn't really a huge urban area, either, so I don't see why you'd send that many helicopters to deal with it. Can we just have a turn without having an entire army breathing down our throat?

But, yeah, Ghaz, it would probably be better if you can only use check your fire a certain amount of times, so you can't have helicopter sniping that does 75 damage and no collat.

Finally, how much would it cost for me to buy cheap anti-aircraft?

[Patrick Hunt]

So we're supposed to win by what? Doing nothing and hoping old age gets you? We have to do this to get the resources to fight you at all.
And you just happen to have been planning the exact right actions to counter every single one of us.

Forgive me if I don't believe that you predicted the moves of 5 different people before they knew themselves perfectly.
But my earlier point remains, we have no hope of winning this when your very first action is to hit a mosquito with a sledge hammer.


Ghaz can we have something in place to give us a chance here? Like maybe UN agents arrive to investigate rumours of mass murder by government forces so that for a limited time Taricus has to be on his best behaviour so to speak.

We need something to give us a little breathing space at the start of this is going to be a very short very one sided fight.

[3man75]

So we're supposed to win by what? Doing nothing and hoping old age gets you? We have to do this to get the resources to fight you at all.
And you just happen to have been planning the exact right actions to counter every single one of us.

Forgive me if I don't believe that you predicted the moves of 5 different people before they knew themselves perfectly.
But my earlier point remains, we have no hope of winning this when your very first action is to hit a mosquito with a sledge hammer.


Ghaz can we have something in place to give us a chance here? Like maybe UN agents arrive to investigate rumours of mass murder by government forces so that for a limited time Taricus has to be on his best behaviour so to speak.

We need something to give us a little breathing space at the start of this is going to be a very short very one sided fight.

Basically this.

This is going to turn out into a "Hmm, let me wait for the insurgents to post and then counter with my units cause...that's the right thing to do as a military dictator with knowledge of these attacks" than it's just not fun. I mean at least in DF you have a chance (small sometimes but it's there) but this isn't !!FUN!! it's just a rofl stomp.

We should at least have temp units that can fight this off or tank most of the damage before dying. This way we can play for more than 5 turns.