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[Nerjin]

Y'know, this is really interesting discourse. Should probably have your characters say some of that since Galia has given you all an in to have your characters express some opinion here.

[Rolepgeek]

The XP stuff sounds good to me, but I'd like for people/commoners to be able to gain XP through ways other than killing monsters and the like. Training, ya know? Or just plain old time.

[Tawa]

I felt the same. Maybe we could implement the "training with weapon/armor for X amount of weeks nets you proficiency" rule?

EDIT: C'mon, guys, post. I feel guilty when half the thread is a run-on conversation between an NPC and I.

[My Name is Immaterial]

Nerjin, that sounds fair.
I think the character should choose what to level up in, but it should be logical, based on their background, and we should be able to train/influence them.

[TealNinja]

Well right now the end of the "Campaign" is when you kill the heroes. But... I do have... Something planned.

As for trading in levels... I guess I could do it somewhat similar to this: Commoners start with -300xp. When they hit 0xp their class levels up into what they would logically choose [Warrior, Adept, Expert] and then when they hit 500xp they become the next evolution of what they would become.

That sound about fair? Shouldn't take too long considering they're bumming around with Level 5's.

I should probably ask right now: Should the Character decide what they become or do you guys want to choose that? Perhaps let you guys choose the first level and they sorta pop around as need be?

Well... I dunno. I might actually let mind washed people gain levels after enough training. I dunno though. Thoughts on that? It seems like it'd be a good way to speed up the game.

Well, if any random shmuck has the spark necessary to become an actual adventurer, the world is likely so covered in them that we'd be better off hiding deep underwater.  Or sitting back, wait until the competition reaches the boiling point, and then casually conquer them while they're destroying their own numbers.

Are you gonna be like this the whole game? If so that's fine but I'm just trying to make a decent fun little evil stroll into victory. If I'm going to be questioned every step of the way I can handle that but I'd like to know.

Well, I know the rules better than you do, and I'm informing you of the rules in a generally hostile way.  I don't mean to be hostile, I'm probably just overly tired and incapable of carrying on polite conversation (especially as i lack tones, which i use to convey jocularity or brevity).

As far as Ganron gaining experience, I reference DMG page 105:

Spoiler: Followers (click to show/hide)

Followers
Followers are similar to cohorts, except they’re generally low-level
NPCs. Because they’re generally five or more levels behind the
character they follow, they’re rarely effective in combat. But a
clever player can use them as scouts, spies, messengers, errand-runners, or guards.
Followers don’t earn experience and thus don’t gain levels.
However, when a character with the Leadership feat (see page
106) attains a new level, the player consults the table in the feat
description to determine if she has acquired more followers, some
of which may be higher level than the existing followers. (You
don’t consult the table to see if your cohort gains levels, however,
because cohorts earn experience on their own.)
Followers don’t demand a share of treasure, although they
depend on the PC they follow to equip them and keep them fed

It describes followers rather than commoners, mercenaries or what have you, but as Ganron is currently /less/ than a follower, it doesn't seem reasonable to give him the benefits of experience.  If you want to give him the benefits of experience, there's a feat for that called Leadership, and it gives you a (singular) cohort that can gain experience and level.

[Tawa]

You can't take that until level 6.

Anyway, if you ask me, this is different. Leadership, from what I can tell, is implied to be through moral, or at least legal methods, i.e. the opposite of what we're doing.

[Nerjin]

-Commoners who become relevant to your party [as honorary party members or something similar] start with -100xp. When they reach 0xp they become either an Adept, Warrior, or Expert. Then based upon the NPC when they reach 500xp they become a PC class.
-Players and NPCs with NPC classes can gain experience through training. They gain 10xp per day of training. If the trainer is of the same or similar class [Martail, Arcane, Divine, etc.] this is increased to 10*[Character’s Class Level]xp per day.
-You can gain weapon, armor, and shield proficiencies through training. You can train in this manner by A) Using said item for the duration of a combat encounter or B) Training in your off hours. Every hour spent training gives you a 5% chance at becoming proficient.

This is what I'm thinking of using for a few new house-rules.

[Nerjin]

A double post? Where?

[TealNinja]

You can't take that until level 6.

Anyway, if you ask me, this is different. Leadership, from what I can tell, is implied to be through moral, or at least legal methods, i.e. the opposite of what we're doing.

There's a prestige class for that.

It's called Thrallherd.

Also, Leadership doesn't specify why they're following you, ever.  You can be an evil, slaughtering psychotic and, with enough Charisma, an Admiral Bicorne and the Leadership feat, you will attract followers.

[flabort]

*Cough*SlaughterhouseNine*Cough*JackSlash*Cough*

[Nerjin]

What?

[Tawa]

There's a prestige class for that.

It's called Thrallherd.

Psionic.

Too late for that.

And if I wanted to be a psion, I would've. I prefer traditional magic.

[flabort]

What?

I assume you're "What?"ing my comment.
Have you ever read Worm?
I was introduced to the story by GreatWyrmGold and accomplices, and am currently on Arc 29 Chapter 4.
Jack Slash is... a spoilery character, but needless to say,

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

 he's a psychopath with a large following, such as granted by the Leadership feat. Although he usually has 8 cohorts, so it's not exactly that feat; It's not even a D&D setting, but the point is: The leader of the Slaughterhouse Nine probably has Leadership.

[My Name is Immaterial]

I've worked out that Ilandrinal can Hustle for exactly 7 hours, taking a total of 41 nonlethal damage, and crossing 56 miles, if we find a trail or road. If we don't, we only cover 42 miles. He can walk for another two hours, covering another 8 miles. He might be ready to faint, but we'll be there. He could hustle for 8 hours, but then he would literally fall unconscious.
I, on the other hand, can run at x4 speed indefinitely. Aint nobody catching me.

[My Name is Immaterial]

"That's pushing it too hard.  I can manage hustling for about 4 hours, and then walk the rest of the way."

Not so. Characters heal non-lethal damage at 1 point per level per hour, so 63 points would be reduced to 41.
Hour 1: 0 NLD - 5 = 0
Hour 2: 1 - 5 = 0 + 0 = 0
Hour 3: 2 - 5 = 0 + 0 = 0
Hour 4: 4 - 5 = 0 + 0 = 0
Hour 5: 8 - 5 = 3 + 0 = 3
Hour 6: 16 - 5 = 11 + 3 = 14
Hour 7: 32 - 5 = 27 + 14 = 41