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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2014, 04:47:30 pm »

Shadow President.

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also supreme ruler which is similar, albeit more graphical and having less depth.

something close to unreal world would be alphaman http://www.download-central.ws/DOS/Games/A/Alphaman/ but don't know where you would draw the line on |realistic|

are giant radioactive monsters of your liking?


anyway, the only real example of nuclear wasteland we have is this, which goes bad for that kind of gaming:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

also, check out rimworld

it does represent a colony on a distant planet, but the desert biome is in and it is the closest you get to a wasteland survivor community simulator
(minus radiations)



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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2014, 06:29:19 am »

I generally don't like recommending this series, but you might try Masters of the World. It's an Eversim game and, if you hit someone with a nuke, you will get immediate messages from your people about how you're a monster and a horrible person followed by immediate impeachment.

At least, that's what happened to me as Glorious Leader of Korea when I nuked the Chinese invasion force because we could never compete with their manpower.

Of course, Korea under my steady hand was a glorious benevolent dictatorship where poverty no longer existed, culture and technology were heavily subsidized, healthcare was free, and so on. So I'm not sure how realistic you want to consider the game.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2014, 09:50:37 am »

Shadow President.

+1

also supreme ruler which is similar, albeit more graphical and having less depth.

something close to unreal world would be alphaman http://www.download-central.ws/DOS/Games/A/Alphaman/ but don't know where you would draw the line on |realistic|

are giant radioactive monsters of your liking?


anyway, the only real example of nuclear wasteland we have is this, which goes bad for that kind of gaming:
Spoiler (click to show/hide)

also, check out rimworld

it does represent a colony on a distant planet, but the desert biome is in and it is the closest you get to a wasteland survivor community simulator
(minus radiations)





Supreme Ruler 2020 or Cold War would work, albeit not too realistic but using nuclear weapons does have international consequences.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2014, 11:03:28 am »

Balance of Power was always my favorite "realistic" nuclear war game.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_Power_(video_game)

I played the 1990 version.  It looks like it is on Abandonia.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2014, 11:22:32 am »

Balance of Power was always my favorite "realistic" nuclear war game.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balance_of_Power_(video_game)

I played the 1990 version.  It looks like it is on Abandonia.

The wikipedia article doesnt exist for some reason.

By realistically portraying nuclear war I mean a realistic outcome not just punks running around in a radioactive desert shooting each others with unrealistic pipe rifles.

Shadow President is really fun and it even simulates nuclear fallout impacting other nations than the one you have bombed, AFAIK, I have never experienced nuclear war in that game simply because its effectively "push button: loose game"
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2014, 11:32:41 am »

for some reason the close-paren was missing from the link.  fixed.

More of a geopolitical simulator where launching a nuclear war is the "lose" condition, but still very good.

There was an older game that Defcon was based on or influenced by... based on a boardgame called Nuclear War.  A little more slap stick.

for a game played more "straight" you might try Twilight 2000.  Very similar to the RPG. 

http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/26721/Twilight+-+2000.html
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2014, 03:09:25 pm »

for a game played more "straight" you might try Twilight 2000.  Very similar to the RPG. 

http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/26721/Twilight+-+2000.html
Twilight 2000 is a bunch of punks running around in radioactive Poland shooting each other for medical supplies. Occasionally with tanks.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2014, 03:22:50 pm »

Seems like a reasonable imagining to the aftermath of WWIII to me.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2014, 07:37:21 pm »

My kick has always been into RTS, post apocalyptic ones are very good :

KKND (and maybe the 2nd) is a must have, if even only for the cutscenes.

Warzone 2100 was released free by it's defunct develloper (but not the playstation version....), and is now updates 15+ years latter.

Another one I won't link because it's abandownware and I dunno if against rules, is "Urban Assault", it's more soylen green than nuke (plankon died) but it works.

More recently there's not a lot of memorable shits, and most "post apo" are RPGs (wasteland 2, Fallout,) or FPS hybrids (Metro, Stalkers) 

Although one of the most promising was a cold war simulation in the Hoi3 engine (east vs west), but it got cancelled by paradox and now there's only a buggy alpha leaked version in the bottom of reddit.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2014, 11:12:03 pm »

NEO Scavenger is a lot of fun, not realistic at all but it has an in depth survival and combat aspect not unlike Unreal World. You can play the demo in your browser, it's worth a try.
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« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2014, 01:44:12 am »

This may be relevant: Visions of The Aftermath: Boomtown.
Summary: Boomtown is a novel attempt at simulating post-apocalyptic life. Althought it may look like an RPG at first glance, the strong simulation focus surfaces soon after the computer builds you a new random world. You must buy provisions and other survival tools, then head out into the wasteland to cultivate fields, hunt animals, and try to last the longest in this harsh land. Overall, it's an interesting and unique simulation-- first in a planned series that never materialized.



Better yet, i found this http://www.homeoftheunderdogs.net/game.php?id=3759
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2014, 12:57:42 pm »

Wouldn't a realistic outcome to a global nuclear war be basically a barren-landscape-with-ruins-simulator? 

If mutants are out, if Mad Max is out, what is really left?

Cataclysm DDA and S.T.A.L.K.E.R series both have radiation, ruins and other realistic aspects, but both also have completely unrealistic mutant stuff. Perhaps modding either would produce the game you are looking for, but at the cost of losing a lot of the content.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2014, 01:01:32 pm »

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Wouldn't a realistic outcome to a global nuclear war be basically a barren-landscape-with-ruins-simulator?

Not really, nukes don't have all that impressive explosive ability.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2014, 01:18:05 pm »

Unless they have more than 20 megaton yield, in which case, they do have some pretty impressive explosive ability.

Don't mind the fact that after ~50 years after a nuclear war, all nuked cities will probably look like forest preserves.
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Re: Games realistically portraying nuclear war
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2014, 01:22:41 pm »

Actually most locations directly struck by a nuclear weapon will become impressive grass-and-woods covered craters in very short order, plants have incredible radiation resistance.  The largest logical fallacy of 'post apocalyptic' depictions is the blasted wasteland.  That's just not how nature responds to major events, take a look at volcanoes, wildfires, and any other landscape-changing event.  The addition of radiation to the mix is almost meaningless to nature, it simply adapts, and rather impressively cleans fallout in very short order (especially water systems, the only real contamination threat to a water system is ground water, the rest just gets buried in the sediment on the bottom of the ocean).  You just aren't going to find a 'realistic' nuclear war game, because the reality is completely divorced from popular media.
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