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[Borge]

With the current version it seems everyone is friends with everyone else. A single death can cause a tantrum spiral despite so many precautions and mood boosters. The more friends a dwarf has, the less impact the loss of a single one should have. If a dwarf loses ALL his/her friends, then it would be fair enough for him/her to become miserable and tantrum.

[pisskop]

Well, I think that with the personality reworks there is some . . . 'unbalance'.

But, to a relatively sheltered dwarf with baggage or stress I could see it happening.

A goblin tooth is nothing to run from, either.  Just imbalance.

[Robsoie]

We don't really know how terrifying a goblin tooth can be.

[ptb_ptb]

We don't really know how terrifying a goblin tooth can be.

That tooth caries a lot of significance.

[tonnot98]

We don't really know how terrifying a goblin tooth can be.

That tooth caries a lot of significance.

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[Saiko Kila]

With the current version it seems everyone is friends with everyone else. A single death can cause a tantrum spiral despite so many precautions and mood boosters. The more friends a dwarf has, the less impact the loss of a single one should have. If a dwarf loses ALL his/her friends, then it would be fair enough for him/her to become miserable and tantrum.

That's bipolar disorder. It's normal.

[Duuvian]

We don't really know how terrifying a goblin tooth can be.

That tooth caries a lot of significance.

That's bipolar disorder. It's normal.

Maybe also bicuspid disorder.

[Tacomagic]

We don't really know how terrifying a goblin tooth can be.

That tooth caries a lot of significance.

That's bipolar disorder. It's normal.

Maybe also bicuspid disorder.

I keep wondering if the number of tooth puns will triple incisor just double.

[pisskop]

In tooth, Eye don't know.

[khearn]

Ah, the puns have started to bite. I think we can write this thread off as a total floss.

[Borge]

Serious question though, does everyone believe that the mood loss currently is too great? Was this the case in DF2012 where 1-2 random deaths could cause the entire fortress to become miserable?

[Absentia]

Serious question though, does everyone believe that the mood loss currently is too great? Was this the case in DF2012 where 1-2 random deaths could cause the entire fortress to become miserable?

If it's different in 2014, it's not enough for me to notice. I would say that having two friends get maimed would make me pretty miserable for awhile, but I might propose that miserable dwarfs should be less likely to flip out and/or go insane.

[Borge]

Serious question though, does everyone believe that the mood loss currently is too great? Was this the case in DF2012 where 1-2 random deaths could cause the entire fortress to become miserable?

If it's different in 2014, it's not enough for me to notice. I would say that having two friends get maimed would make me pretty miserable for awhile, but I might propose that miserable dwarfs should be less likely to flip out and/or go insane.

Either that or a dwarf who attacks another during a tantrum is wrestled by those brave enough around him until the tantruming dwarf is unconscious, either through having a joint broken or choked unconcious. That way a single dwarf having a tantrum doesn't then punch the popular legendary conversationalist child who hangs out in the dining hall all day in the head, making it explode in gore and sending the other 80% of the Fortress into violent tantrums because literally everyone was friends with him.

[Mishrak]

I abandoned all use of official meeting rooms for this specific purpose.  The downward spiral is too sharp and too fast for me and I get a little frustrated that tantrum spirals happen so easily.  Even in a situation where you have a dominant victory over a siege but still have casualties, the risk of a tantrum spiral is really high.  I generally prepare to kill (via trapdoor pitting) any dwarf whose mood sinks too low.

[Kohmelo]

Tantrums spirals are quite mad at the moment. Refuse and graveyard jobs seems to make them even badder. (do we need to dump everything nowadays?)

Most annoying thing is that dwarfs just start to die like flies when they start throwing things...