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[Strife26]

It's pretty interesting the spin control the sheriff gives to some media organizations. It's a tragic shootout with no mention that the cops were the ones who called the rancher with implications that the rancher was there to shoot the deputies in an attempt to save a bull hit by a car.

[RedKing]

WTF....

"Hey can you shoot this bull for us?'
"Sure, no problem."
*BANG*
"He's got a gun! And he shot a bull! GET HIM"


All I can think of is that the deputies on the scene had no idea that their own sheriff's department had called this guy to take care of the bull, which was his property to begin with.

[nenjin]

Seems like the complete story on this slaying has yet to be told.

[Zangi]

Think its more like:

Sheriff Department to Farmer: "Can you do something about this bull?"

Farmer arrives on scene: "Looks like he won't make it."  Grabs shotgun from truck.
Deputies on scene: "Whoa, hey, wtf?!  He has a shotgun!"

[Helgoland]

Sounds like a classica loyalty cascade.

[RedKing]

Think its more like:

Sheriff Department to Farmer: "Can you do something about this bull?"

Farmer arrives on scene: "Looks like he won't make it."  Grabs shotgun from truck.
Deputies on scene: "Whoa, hey, wtf?!  He has a shotgun!"

Yeah, because rural Idaho....NOBODY has a gun around there. Except the people, the wildlife, the vegetation, and perhaps some rocks.

[Loud Whispers]

Think its more like:
Sheriff Department to Farmer: "Can you do something about this bull?"
Farmer arrives on scene: "Looks like he won't make it."  Grabs shotgun from truck.
Deputies on scene: "Whoa, hey, wtf?!  He has a shotgun!"

Maybe one of the cops has some sort of trigger instinct where they hear gunshots and must shoot

[SalmonGod]

Shit like this is why people like me don't only disapprove of police for their abuses of authority, but also question the very nature of their purpose.

[Zangi]

In January 2010, he mysteriously reappeared. What Lisa and the other campaigners did not know at that time was that Kennedy was quitting the police to avoid being assigned to a humdrum desk job. But he had not discarded his fictional persona of “Mark Stone”, and continued to be involved in political campaigns. He has admitted that he was employed by a clandestine private security firm that was paid by commercial firms to monitor protesters.

This one seems to be glossed over in the article...  But, at least he lost his fake paperwork after leaving the police.

[Strife26]

There's gotta be some serious consent issues with doing shit like that. Of course, it is the UK where rights aren't as much of a thing, so who knows

[RedKing]

Here, have another dead black kid.

He was actually killed about a year ago, but the Chicago PD today released the dashcam video. He was shot 16 times, including two in the back which, looking at the video, came a good ten seconds after the was down and no longer posed any threat.

Yes, he had traces of PCP in his system. Yes, he was carrying a knife (though when it was recovered, the blade was still folded into the handle). However, in the video he is not charging anyone, not threatening anyone, and there are at least three cops on the scene. The guy who shot him had been on the scene less than 30 seconds and commenced to open fire six seconds after getting out of his patrol car. I mean....What. The. Fuck.

[SalmonGod]

And was reloading when another officer told him to stop.

How about the shooting of Jeremy McDole?  Guy's paralyzed in a wheelchair, obviously in a weird mental state, apparently unaware of his surroundings, and seems so sluggish that he doesn't even look capable of sudden movement.  But officers approach the situation by lining up in front of him in battle stances with guns drawn like he's a rabid dog, shout at him for a little bit, and then light him up when his fingertips slowly enter his pocket.

[SaberToothTiger]

Good to see US police force staying classy.

[Shadowlord]

Dashcam video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zz03rvyhIk

You can't make out what he's holding (other reports said it was a folding knife), but we can tell he wasn't threatening anyone with it, and wasn't walking towards any cops with it. The dashcam was looking right at him. It didn't record the cop that shot him, but the cop gunned him down and then kept shooting (I saw at least one bullet hit the pavement), as other reports said, and then a cop walked over and kicked his knife away, and then walked away again without bothering to check to see how badly injured he was - but that seems to be SOP.

Also, this is remarkable:

The lawyer for a white Chicago police officer charged with murdering a black teenager said on Wednesday his client feared for his life and that footage from a patrol car camera released this week is unreliable because video "distorts images."

...

"Video by its nature is two-dimensional. It distorts images. So what appears to be clear on a video sometimes is not always that clear," Herbert said. He said Van Dyke "truly was in fear for his life as well as the lives of his fellow police officers."

And I imagine every black man in this country is in fear for their lives every time they see a cop. Do they also have the right to defend themselves preemptively with lethal force as a result?  They don't even seem to have second amendment rights - they get shot down if a cop sees any kind of weapon, or even thinks he does. It's absurd.

The lawyer says he was threatening businesses and vandalizing cop cars, but "He did BAD THINGS" doesn't justify killing, and "I was afraid for my life" seems like an excuse these days - what's he going to do, throw the knife at you? It's not a frigging ninja star.

It's like everyone's forgotten what's written in the fifth amendment other than the part about not testifying against yourself.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Cops shooting people dead is literally a violation of their constitutional rights.

[Strife26]

It's fine, dead people are no longer citizens, so they've waived those rights (except for ol' Walt, of course, and that's just copyright).