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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #855 on: December 16, 2014, 12:36:23 pm »

For a change of pace, something less violent and from the UK, but still sleazy as hell.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/15/police-university-list-fracking-debate
Haha, what a smart move, give those police more badges. NOTHING TO FEAR CITIZENS

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #856 on: December 17, 2014, 12:12:00 am »

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #857 on: December 17, 2014, 02:15:20 pm »

I assume the maker of that video did the narration? :P
Seriously though,that's a pretty damn terrible statement by mister police chief, especially considering who he's defending. Impressively terrible, even.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #858 on: December 17, 2014, 06:01:49 pm »

Yeah, he did the narration.
Didn't know there was footage for the Tyler Rice (? I believe that's the right name) incident. That makes it seem even more absurd.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #859 on: December 18, 2014, 02:53:13 pm »

The KKK may be considered an almost-there terror organization, but it is not officially one.  Also, I'd reckon membership would drop like a brick if it does get classified as a terror organization.

These groups tend to be paranoid and often have an anti-government thing. Classing them as a terrorist organization might actually play into their "the government is out to get us" rhetoric.

Holy crap, that Jon Crawford case is bullshit. You pick up a toy gun off a shelf in walmart then the cops shoot you because you're a black guy with a gun. How many white kids have they ever shot in the toy aisle?

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #860 on: December 18, 2014, 03:15:28 pm »

The KKK may be considered an almost-there terror organization, but it is not officially one.  Also, I'd reckon membership would drop like a brick if it does get classified as a terror organization.

These groups tend to be paranoid and often have an anti-Democrat thing. Classing them as a terrorist organization might actually play into their "the libruhls is out to get us" rhetoric.

FTFY. These groups tend to have a much lower profile and be less prone to batshit craziness when a Republican administration is in office. All those militia groups and white supremacists from the 90s got a lot quieter once Dubya was in charge. And then promptly revved up the crazy machine once a n----r (gasp!) was in charge. (Though to be fair, they started revving it up in the last two years of G-Dub's tenure because he was seen as too liberal and a lame duck.)

The real test would be to see their reaction to a black Republican president.



In the wake of the Michael Brown/Eric Garner/every-other black-man-shot-by-cops furor, and the backlash against that furor, it's going to be interesting to see how this plays into the 2016 campaigns.

Which candidates on the right are going to dog-whistle the hardest to get those juicy racist votes, (which are by no means confined to the Southern states)?
Which candidates on the left are going to court Al Sharpton and the anti-police demographic?
Which candidates on the libertarian right are going to shoot for a crossover by calling for law enforcement reform? (Rand Paul is already dipping into that well.)
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #861 on: December 18, 2014, 06:49:35 pm »

We ALMOST had the choice between a black republican candidate and a black democratic candidate in 2012, except Herman Cain turned out to be rather nutters. Would have been VERY interesting to see how things played out.

There is at least one African American on the Republican side, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson, but none for Democrat, so far. Theres a couple hispanic people on both sides though.

Edit: Wikipedia has Allen West (former rep. from florida) and Herman Cain as possible candidates as well.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #862 on: December 18, 2014, 06:56:30 pm »

Most of the black Republicans seem to err on the side of psycho, so I can't see it being particularly desirable.
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« Reply #863 on: December 18, 2014, 07:03:47 pm »

Yeah, those like Hermain Cain and Allen West. I don't know anything about Ben Carson though. Then again, looking at the info on wikipedia, he doesn't believe in evolution, or at least not in the way that it's defined. That alone won't kill my vote for him if I wished to.

While the wikipedia article says that he's pretty conservative, I'm giving him a chance to lay out his views in the debates.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #864 on: December 18, 2014, 07:05:44 pm »

Ben Carson is a regular subject of Right Wing Watch. He's...uh.

Hermain Cain is probably the most reasonable black Republican of any notability, and that mostly comes from him being an eccentric and independent kind of guy.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #865 on: December 18, 2014, 07:15:35 pm »

Ben Carson is a regular subject of Right Wing Watch. He's...uh.

Hermain Cain is probably the most reasonable black Republican of any notability, and that mostly comes from him being an eccentric and independent kind of guy.

Herman Cain is maybe a little TOO eccentric, have you seen his commercials during the 2012 campaign? Also, I don't know what RIght Wing Watch is, so that means nothing to me.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #866 on: December 18, 2014, 07:18:39 pm »

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #867 on: December 18, 2014, 08:39:12 pm »

rightwingwatch.org
mediamatters.org
sourcewatch.org
rationalwiki.org

^ good research resources for progressives. rightwingwatch and mediamatters boil down stuff from conservative media and sourcewatch details who pays for all the different political think tanks and policy institutes, so when you read a news story that eg. Heritage Foundation did some study or whatever saying that we need more fracking, you can see which oil billionaires are funding that shizzle.

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #868 on: December 18, 2014, 11:06:03 pm »



If I was a Murrican, I would probably vote for this guy because of this gif alone.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #869 on: December 18, 2014, 11:10:45 pm »

Ben Carson is a regular subject of Right Wing Watch. He's...uh.

Hermain Cain is probably the most reasonable black Republican of any notability, and that mostly comes from him being an eccentric and independent kind of guy.

no just no, he's funny but no.

I can't believe you didn't mention Michael Steele, he's damn near moderate after the GOP used him to try to appeal to minorities then didn't like his ideas and tossed him to the curb.

Hermain Cain is way out there. He did however do some hilarious colbert report and daily show skits where he addressed wildlife animals to explain why they had to take one for the team for the country and how we needed to handle an alien invasion.

Edit: Ben Carson is... he's not with it at all. I wouldn't even consider him anything. He's not a politician, he's a neurosurgeon, and while I'm sure he's superb at it, his mental faculties on everything else are lacking.
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