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Author Topic: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice  (Read 429457 times)

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #120 on: November 25, 2014, 09:54:06 am »

You know, I wonder how it would come out if the Grand Jury was hypothetically all black, equal number of genders or if it was balanced with equal number of white and black and equal number of men and women on both sides?

Obviously we can't go and try those, that's why it's a hypothetical.

Definetly calmer this morning, heres hoping the looting and crap doesn't start up again tonight.
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« Reply #121 on: November 25, 2014, 10:32:25 am »

Jury composition might not have changed things too much. Fivethirtyeight has some interesting stats on grand jury indictments:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

The takeaway, apparently, is that indictment nearly always happens unless it's a police officer, in which case it rarely ever happens. Insufficient studies as to why.

Protests started right back up this morning, but they'll more than likely stay civil during daylight hours. You'd think the court would've announced the verdict in the AM rather than right after dark.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #122 on: November 25, 2014, 10:51:41 am »

And now we wait to see whether the "black people are subhuman" or the "Amerikkka is a police state, cops are the worst" circlejerk wins out on Reddit.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #123 on: November 25, 2014, 10:57:51 am »

Jury composition might not have changed things too much. Fivethirtyeight has some interesting stats on grand jury indictments:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

The takeaway, apparently, is that indictment nearly always happens unless it's a police officer, in which case it rarely ever happens. Insufficient studies as to why.

Protests started right back up this morning, but they'll more than likely stay civil during daylight hours. You'd think the court would've announced the verdict in the AM rather than right after dark.
Because police unions, duh.

USA is actually a police state, where policemen band together in a blue wall of silence and become immune to every attempt to persecute them.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #124 on: November 25, 2014, 11:00:17 am »

And now we wait to see whether the "black people are subhuman" or the "Amerikkka is a police state, cops are the worst" circlejerk wins out on Reddit.
Perhaps they'll combine into one single entity, the "American police state black conspiracy".
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #125 on: November 25, 2014, 12:15:30 pm »

Augh, the whole situation is stupid.

Just so stupid.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #126 on: November 25, 2014, 01:12:23 pm »

Rioting always seems so pointless

"I AM ON THE SIDE OF X!"
"LETS BURN BUILDINGS, STEAL STUFF, AND FLIP CARS!"
"THAT WILL SHOW THEM HOW REASONABLE WE ARE!!!"
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #127 on: November 25, 2014, 01:17:21 pm »

Rioting is pointless. It's exactly what happens when an often reasonable complaint rapidly spirals out of control due to a combination of stupid young people and professional criminals looking to take advantage of the situation get angry in a way that fails to really do anything but cause preventable tragedy.
Fergusson needs more protest, less firebombing. The police want someone to shoot a cop or loot a store: it's an instant justification for anything.

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #128 on: November 25, 2014, 01:32:19 pm »

The only problem is they tried that, and it got them tear gassed, beaten, media suppressed, and guns pointed at them. It may be pointless, but what the hell else do you do at that point? The powers that be are killing your people, violently suppressing dissent, and showing absolutely no interest in seeing anything positive done. Sure, it's pointless, but at that point so is everything. Setting something on fire is a pretty normal reaction in that kind of situation. Probably the wrong one, but at that point "fuck the world" is damned understandable.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #129 on: November 25, 2014, 01:35:49 pm »

Speaking as an outsider, this seems like one of the worst jams America has ever gotten itself into since the start of the War on Terror. It's just am increasingly horrible situation where no one ever seems to make the right call. Or is even able to make the right call.

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2014, 01:45:48 pm »

As the old saying goes:

Some people just want to watch the world burn
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2014, 01:50:46 pm »

Speaking as an outsider, this seems like one of the worst jams America has ever gotten itself into since the start of the War on Terror. It's just am increasingly horrible situation where no one ever seems to make the right call. Or is even able to make the right call.
It's a real life tantrum spiral.
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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2014, 01:54:23 pm »

That is a surprisingly perfect description.
I hope the great Toad in the sky sees this as a perfect oppertunity for some debugging.

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2014, 01:57:05 pm »

The only problem is they tried that, and it got them tear gassed, beaten, media suppressed, and guns pointed at them. It may be pointless, but what the hell else do you do at that point? The powers that be are killing your people, violently suppressing dissent, and showing absolutely no interest in seeing anything positive done. Sure, it's pointless, but at that point so is everything. Setting something on fire is a pretty normal reaction in that kind of situation. Probably the wrong one, but at that point "fuck the world" is damned understandable.

MLK's disciples also suffered ridiculously out of proportion abuse, like having rabid police dogs sicced on them, but they did not explode into riots at the first sign of injustice. There's this idea common on the Internet that police abuse and brutality is a new, modern reaction to protest that makes modern protest futile, and somehow morally justifies the harm of unrelated innocents by protesters, but then you remember...



...and those protests somehow remained peaceful and loot-free, despite being composed of old folk and "stupid young people."

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Re: The Abusive Policing Thread: Beyond Brown, No Justice
« Reply #134 on: November 25, 2014, 02:00:51 pm »

People who don't enjoy the benefits of the social contract have no obligation to abide by it.
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