On that point, the list of things that Jimmy stated are the core driver behind the incarceration rate exactly the same as the deaths in custody numbers.
Saying "incarceration rate" instead of "black deaths in custody" doesn't actually enlighten anyone about what to do about the
source of the problem. In action, the direct way to achieve that would be just for the police to turn more of a blind eye to stuff they see happening in front of them.
There are cases of wrongful arrests and convictions, etc, but those make up a small proportion of the incarceration rate for stuff they pretty much actually did do, so just tightening up the rules for police investigations won't actually make much of a noticeable dent in the incarceration rate. This is still chipping away at the corners.
Again, the core way to fix the problem is more funds for social services. Changing police tactics and rules of engagement won't solve this.
Here are some stats about what people are in prison for.
https://www.alrc.gov.au/publication/pathways-to-justice-inquiry-into-the-incarceration-rate-of-aboriginal-and-torres-strait-islander-peoples-alrc-report-133/3-incidence/offences-that-lead-to-a-sentence-of-imprisonment/Notice that the leading type of charge for aboriginal Australians is assault (33%), whereas for non-aboriginal australians the leading type of charge is drug-related. 60% of aboriginal inmates are being held for crimes in the categories of "acts intended to cause injury (comprising 33% ...); burglary (15%); offences against justice* (11%); and robbery (11%)".
* "offenses against justice" includes bail or parole breaching, which could be said to be biased as they're more likely to have contact with the criminal justice system, however, a large chunk (46%) of that is breaching AVOs including domestic violence orders. So we have a fair chunk of that being family violence and the police intervening to prevent that from happening. It's a general community expectation that people who commit domestic violence actually get arrested. So you have the balancing act of not locking up black people vs locking up people who've committed "wife beating". These things overlap.
There is definitely a perception the media presents that the cops are just rounding these people up for basically nothing, but every one of these things are generally things where the community has an expectation that the people committing them aren't just going to be walking around the next day after being charged. That, too would undermine justice.
We can't just say stop the incarceration, we do actually need a plan to prevent the assaults and robberies from taking place.