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[Dirst]

Because it doesn't particularly add anything to the game.

While the buttocks themselves dont actually ad to the game, the need to juggle about more 'uncontrolled' resources would be more Fun.

You need some water.  Some magma is nice, but not required.  And you need a way to dispose of excess materials.  If say, physical waste 'refus' was to be made more of a problem then just, throw down a hole into magma (like disease or heavier thoughts) and there was a need for liquid waste (be it actual urine or even something that plays of already present materials, like dust, syndrome powder, etc) it would be cool.

There are two hardcoded materials in the game called 'filth,' one is a yellow liquid and one is a brown solid.  You can probably imagine the original intent, but neither one is referenced in any way in the vanilla game.

[samanato]

I always imagine the "lower body" as being the entire hip area, including the buttocks.  I think, those specific bodyparts got left out for the same reason that genitals are left out, one of which is making for some tremendously squicky combat logs.

There are two hardcoded materials in the game called 'filth,' one is a yellow liquid and one is a brown solid.  You can probably imagine the original intent, but neither one is referenced in any way in the vanilla game.

iirc, the old Tentacle Demon pits were the only place where you could find the "filth" substances. (They also had "unknown substance" which— nevermind.)

[dwarf_reform]

I'm torn here, because Masterwork has added left/right buttock and groin and the world didn't end, and at the same time vanilla DF doesn't have those bits but gets right down to individual fingers and eyelids and teeth..

I guess my opinion is that dwarves should get some sweet hams to fill their addy chainmail leggings with.. plus they only sit on unpadded stone and wood chairs :| It must be a tough life.. But my strongest argument for adding them in is simple hilarity and storytelling.. Story bits where dwarves fall out of trees and explode their genitals, or get sent flying and slide on their genitals, or taking an arrow to the arse (or getting a rotting disease that starts on an ass-cheek) are all hilarious.. Potential perverted enemy-AI wrestlers wrangling with genitals :>

I just don't see any true DF player being put off by some booty and nondescript genitalia, especially when we're busy trying to weaponize babies (by either ripping them away from their mothers for toddler military training or actually making artifact baby-weapons) and a hundred "worse" (aka amazing) things than that :> I, myself, would be proud to have my gens snapped off by a dragon, or to get punched in the ass by a bronze colossus

(Dirty immature bathroom talk below, beware, beeeWAAARE!)

For the last bit: the poo and pee :> Another thing I would have absolutely no problem with being added When my dwarf dies he should crap his cat-leather thong! This game is cherished for its depth and in general city/civilization-building sewage is a serious deal Something as crazy as "A toilet for every dwarf and a clean bucket to flush with!!" may be too much, but adding an actual 'bathing zone' designation would be cool, and add a bit of control and structure to those 'bathe self' commands..

A dwarf that can't make it to the bathroom-zone on time, or can't walk, perhaps low-discipline dwarves confronted by a terrifying enemy, or maybe even dwarves afflicted by certain diseases/illnesses, dwarves that die, and dwarves that are insane would be the only dwarves that'd ever cut loose inside your fort.. Before a zone was designated maybe they'd path for any outdoor grass tile to use as a bathroom (urine wouldn't leave anything behind outside, but poo would stick around for a day or three before becoming "one" with the earth, or if rain came..).. It'd be the same as vomit, pretty much, disappearing over time if not cleaned, except that vomit doesn't generate bad feelings, apparently, and crap and piss probably should

The more I think about it.. we need this! (or at the very least could use a way to focus dwarves that want to wash themselves, since it sounds like, once soiled, they can pick any non-forbidden non-river water to use for self-cleaning.. Honestly not sure, since I've never constructed a makeshift cleaning area or one of those high-traffic water-pit contaminant-remover thingys in any of my forts, haha).. :> Another point, if this ever were implemented, would be the fact that any natural, living, eating creature should technically poo, and that poo should be usable as fertilizer, and all that poo could potentially damage fps.. But it'd also allow you to dump literal tons of feces into your pits, to add to that warm welcoming feeling of being trapped in a corpse-filled miasma pit

I dunno.. I think I'm coming off my poo-high now, and starting to think that maybe having poo to laugh about and deal with isn't worth the Toad-time it'd consume to implement Still, it'd be entertaining at the very least..

'The goblin maceman defecates in fear!' 'Urist Twoply has been disturbed by the presence of feces lately.'

IMMERSION! Immerse me in feces!!

[Chevaleresse]

Who knows what the dwarves are actually doing while "On Break." If they can't be arsed to care about the bits of splattered goblin getting dragged about the halls until they start to smell, maybe they don't even notice the various. . . byproducts.

[varnish]

The title almost sounds like the name of an educational children's book.

[Nikita]

It would amuse me greatly if I could see something along the lines of "his butt is round" on the thoughts and preferences screen.

And the butt as a thing to attract stray arrows, of course.

[Henny]

It would amuse me greatly if I could see something along the lines of "his butt is round" on the thoughts and preferences screen.

[MANNERISM:SCRATCH] should be a valid token.

[than402]

It would amuse me greatly if I could see something along the lines of "his butt is round" on the thoughts and preferences screen.

And the butt as a thing to attract stray arrows, of course.

masterwork's succubi(well,boltgun's succubi mod) had stuff like "voluptuous" breasts and "firm" butt in the descriptions.at least in the previous edition.i think Meph removed it in 6.0,but it's very easy to mod it if you want to.

[bluephoenix]

I always imagine the "lower body" as being the entire hip area, including the buttocks.

This, "lower body" includes all that without having to describe it all.

[Button]

Because Dwarf Fortress is Toady's legacy. If I understand correctly, he doesn't want it known and/or remembered as "that game where you can grab somebody's weiner and yank it off."

[pisskop]

Because Dwarf Fortress is Toady's legacy. If I understand correctly, he doesn't want it known and/or remembered as "that game where you can grab somebody's weiner and yank it off."

Too late.  We've been there, done that.

[reality.auditor]

If I understand correctly, he doesn't want it known and/or remembered as "that game where you can grab somebody's weiner and yank it off."

It would be remembered like that only if nothing more interesting happened in game. I think we all will agree that DF has way, way more depth than that.

And you can always have just non-descript "genitalia" body part (external in males, internal in females). Making this cyan would make animal/sentient infertile. Animal males (especially cats) can be made cyan there in butchery. Presto, cat population control without killing them and pissing off dwarven cat ladies.

[klefenz]

If I understand correctly, he doesn't want it known and/or remembered as "that game where you can grab somebody's weiner and yank it off."

It would be remembered like that only if nothing more interesting happened in game. I think we all will agree that DF has way, way more depth than that.

And you can always have just non-descript "genitalia" body part (external in males, internal in females). Making this cyan would make animal/sentient infertile. Animal males (especially cats) can be made cyan there in butchery. Presto, cat population control without killing them and pissing off dwarven cat ladies.

-We need these cats sterilized, where is Urist McSurgeon?
-Dont bother him with that! He's too busy milling around and letting people rot in the hospital to do surgery on some pesky cats.
-But we need to keep the cat population under control, and we cant kill them, Urist McCatLover would go bersek.
-Well, we could tell Urist McButcher there is a new source of meatba-
-Dont say it!

[samanato]

If I understand correctly, he doesn't want it known and/or remembered as "that game where you can grab somebody's weiner and yank it off."

It would be remembered like that only if nothing more interesting happened in game. I think we all will agree that DF has way, way more depth than that.

And you can always have just non-descript "genitalia" body part (external in males, internal in females). Making this cyan would make animal/sentient infertile. Animal males (especially cats) can be made cyan there in butchery. Presto, cat population control without killing them and pissing off dwarven cat ladies.

That gives me an idea for a modded interaction of some kind to spay and neuter pets.  All you need to do for that is adding [STERILE] through some kind of syndrome-trigger (and CE_IMPAIR_FUNCTION to genitals if you were doing that, but it's less necessary).  The big problem is actually queueing the job itself, since I don't think you can use live (non-vermin) animals in reactions.

[bluephoenix]

I don't think you can use live (non-vermin) animals in reactions.

Yes you can, that's how you get milk and wool and it does modify the creature in the latter as it's hair will be described as short after shearing.