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[StagnantSoul]

I'm doing a mod that adds in a lot of new creatures, changes some current once, and makes new weapon potentials, alloys, and maybe even a new civilization. I want to make a poison dragon. I can figure out syndromes through bites, fumes, and it's stinger tail, but can I have touching it with bare hands be dangerous, and if it's claws touch you too? I may take away the fumes. Can I give it poisonous spit though? I'd love to give it poisonous spit, just I don't quite understand the natural abilities like spits and syndromes all the way. Creature sizes, aging, bodies, all that? I've got it down.

[Chevaleresse]

Not sure. Would having the skin and claws carry a contact syndrome work? I.e., defining the syndrome within the tissue rather than throwing it into a venom of some variety.

[StagnantSoul]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of. There will be two poison dragons, one that induces fevers and dizziness, and then the Giant Poison Dragon, which induces paralysis and nausea.

[Minnakht]

Can I give it poisonous spit though? I'd love to give it poisonous spit, just I don't quite understand the natural abilities like spits and syndromes all the way.

Sure you can. Basically, you'll need to define like... three things. Or two.

One: You'll need to make custom spit. Most creatures that spit just do
   [USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SPIT:SPIT_TEMPLATE]
so just add various tags to that.
There are four tags that declare how a material can inflict a syndrome.
SYN_INJECTED, SYN_CONTACT, SYN_INHALED, SYN_INGESTED
These are respectively: Through an attack that injects (your stinger tail and possibly fangs already do this), contact with the material (I'll get back to that in a sec), breathing the material as a gas (for fumes) and for eating/drunking the material (this probably won't happen.)
So basically you want to give your modded spit, defined in the creature, some contact syndrome.

Two: You want to give it an interaction or something to make it spit the spit. Let's just look at the copied one from dwarves.

   [CAN_DO_INTERACTION:MATERIAL_EMISSION]
      [CDI:ADV_NAME:Spit]
      [CDI:USAGE_HINT:NEGATIVE_SOCIAL_RESPONSE]
      [CDI:USAGE_HINT:TORMENT]
      [CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:MOUTH]
      [CDI:MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SPIT:LIQUID_GLOB]
      [CDI:VERB:spit:spits:NA]
      [CDI:TARGET:C:LINE_OF_SIGHT]
      [CDI:TARGET_RANGE:C:15]
      [CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:C:1]
      [CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:30]

See the bolded part? That's where the material that is spit is defined - LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SPIT.
And then you'll probably also want to change the usage hint to ATTACK or something - I'm not sure on this point.

As for contact syndromes on skin and claws - eh, I'm not sure. Contact tends to require prolonged contact, like getting liquid spatters on enemies. Maybe. I bought my lab coat, you see.

[Chevaleresse]

I smell some !!science!!. Care to upload the critter so we can test it?

[IndigoFenix]

You can't make the skin itself be poisonous, but you can make it secrete a poison from its skin which will have the same effect.
Just copy the secretion tag for sweat and replace SWEAT with the poison material and EXERTION with CONTINUOUS.

[Minnakht]

Whoa, that's brilliant. Thanks!

[Teldin]

Just a note though - if you have a custom creature in fortress mode that continually secretes something (I once made playable bog trolls that exuded a gross slime from their skin), the AI will break like a kobold egg and they'll spend 99% of their time running to and from the river to wash off, then get re-slimed, then wash off again, etc.

[StagnantSoul]

Oh, so my dragon would be washing himself? That's kind of dumb. I'll put the raw here once I get back on my laptop. I could use the fire imp's fireball attack, and replace it with spit.

[StagnantSoul]

Wouldn't it be considered exertion in combat though? I'll do some !!science!! using arena mode once I get the dragon done, then put the results here.

[YAHG]

Just a note though - if you have a custom creature in fortress mode that continually secretes something (I once made playable bog trolls that exuded a gross slime from their skin), the AI will break like a kobold egg and they'll spend 99% of their time running to and from the river to wash off, then get re-slimed, then wash off again, etc.

remove this:

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[CAN_DO_INTERACTION:CLEANING]
[CDI:ADV_NAME:Clean]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:CLEAN_SELF]
[CDI:USAGE_HINT:CLEAN_FRIEND]
[CDI:BP_REQUIRED:BY_CATEGORY:TONGUE]
[CDI:VERB:lick:licks:lick each other]
[CDI:CAN_BE_MUTUAL]
[CDI:TARGET:A:SELF_ALLOWED:TOUCHABLE]
[CDI:TARGET_RANGE:A:1]
[CDI:MAX_TARGET_NUMBER:A:1]
[CDI:WAIT_PERIOD:10]
Of course they will stay dirty, but its probably ok for a monster to be dirty , prolly make you feel better about killing them .

[StagnantSoul]

Thanks! I may make my dragonic race playable. I doubt they'd be poiso- IDEAAAAAAAA!!!!

[BlackFlyme]

His creatures were controllable in Fort Mode, and the problem was that they would continually cancel what they were doing to go to the river to clean themselves. It had nothing to do with that interaction, as what they were doing was normal behaviour for creatures that can perform jobs. If you were to give dwarves a constant secretion, they would behave the same way.

Though an interaction like that may help with the spam, as they would be able to clean themselves without having to find a water source. Or maybe not, as they would still freak out over being covered in slime. Plus it would also have the creatures continuously clean themselves, as they would be constantly secreting their substance. This could slow them down, as that cleaning interaction is not a free action, and will take a little bit of time to perform.

A creature that cannot take jobs will probably not attempt to clean itself.

[StagnantSoul]

Oh, okay.

[YAHG]

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His creatures were controllable in Fort Mode, and the problem was that they would continually cancel what they were doing to go to the river to clean themselves. It had nothing to do with that interaction, as what they were doing was normal behaviour for creatures that can perform jobs. If you were to give dwarves a constant secretion, they would behave the same way.

Though an interaction like that may help with the spam, as they would be able to clean themselves without having to find a water source. Or maybe not, as they would still freak out over being covered in slime. Plus it would also have the creatures continuously clean themselves, as they would be constantly secreting their substance. This could slow them down, as that cleaning interaction is not a free action, and will take a little bit of time to perform.

A creature that cannot take jobs will probably not attempt to clean itself.

Ahhh

Thank you for the clarification , the better part of error is its realization.

edit: punctuation