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Author Topic: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!  (Read 798226 times)

Urist McScoopbeard

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1725 on: July 05, 2015, 01:22:52 pm »

Orcs are cunning now, they hide their true number behind huge numbers.

Orkz iz cunnin', dey 'ide themz numbaz be'ind 'uger numbaz o' boyz.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1726 on: July 07, 2015, 11:13:24 pm »

Any suggestions for a Renegade or Chaos UI?

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1727 on: July 08, 2015, 12:53:04 am »

Well, would Renegade and Chaos actually be different?

Because Renegade doesn't necessarily mean Chaos-corrupted. It means independent, cut off from their Chapter if it still exists and the Imperium. It's jury-rigged equipment and scavenged weapons. Rugged, battle-tested, proud, desperate. It's defaced or at least faded iconography. Vox displays and text that fizzle or scatter momentarily. Names for the heads of the different chapter roles could change to something more straight forward, less gothic. (Chief Psyker for example.) Requisition would change to Resources. Loyalty would stay loyalty, except now it's to the Chapter Master instead of the Imperium.

Chaos...there's several ways you can approach it. There's the almost comical level of spikes, which would look sort of silly on UI buttons and panels. But some spikes, maybe with skulls on them, are always good. There's the liquid black metal look, the oil-slick precision of corrupted tech. There's the runic look with glowing runes and energy coursing through them. There's the melding of flesh and metal look, the blatant weirdness of warp flesh look. Daemonic skin and bone growths and nodules. Good 'ol pustules. The singular twitching eye, the twisted screaming faces woven into surfaces. And then there's just the artfully ancient and malevolent, age-crusted lines that still have an edge of elegance, pride and wrath. Green screens could be changed to red or like a faint purple. Names could change to more Chaos appropriate things. Your Chief Librarian would be your Sorcerer Lord or something. Your Chaplain may or may not change. They don't really have the same role as Space Marine chaplains. Only the Word Bearers to my knowledge have a Chaplain like role in their hierarchy. I suppose something like Master of the Cult, or something? Forgemaster could probably stay this same although I'm sure some Chaos-y alternative could be found (Forge Lord?) Loyalty would become Favor.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1728 on: July 08, 2015, 01:44:35 am »

Any suggestions for a Renegade or Chaos UI?
Changes based on which Chaos god you worship.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1729 on: July 08, 2015, 02:26:30 am »

So Khorne-UI would have ANGRY HEAVY METAL on a loop mixed with the buzzing of chainsaws?
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1730 on: July 08, 2015, 07:00:57 am »

I'd think subtle changes are all that's needed really - I wouldn't bother going too extreme with it.
If you look at the differences in HOMM3 UI if you play good/bad, it's really just a different border but it adds such a lot of extra atmosphere.

One thing I'd really like in CM is a more animated UI - even just a few bits of fizz on the screens or some moving icons would really help bring it to life.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1731 on: July 08, 2015, 07:17:54 am »

Renegade should be a subtle change, the loss of aquila's or such based on HOW you renegade, some renegades just serve the emperor in a different way after all.

Chaos should be when it gets more off.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1732 on: July 08, 2015, 12:04:11 pm »

Relabeling some buttons might be an easy (?) and effective way to create atmosphere. Like as you get more Khorny at some point the "raid" button gets relabeled "KILLFRENZY" or something, etc. This is a dumb example but you get what I mean.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1733 on: July 08, 2015, 12:13:16 pm »

yes, and yes.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1734 on: July 08, 2015, 03:30:51 pm »

Is it intentional for loyalty to decrease constantly for _____ reason here or is that a bug? You'd think it'd reduce your loyalty by X for one time, but NOPE. how2loyalty.jpg
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1735 on: July 09, 2015, 05:49:47 pm »

I would consider looking at black crusade and its iconography.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1736 on: July 09, 2015, 06:46:33 pm »

Is it intentional for loyalty to decrease constantly for _____ reason here or is that a bug? You'd think it'd reduce your loyalty by X for one time, but NOPE. how2loyalty.jpg

Loyalty doesn't decrease for no reason. Maybe you were not paying the tithe? But I have never seen loyalty go down for no reason.

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Any suggestions for a Renegade or Chaos UI?

You could either go for a different UI for each chaos god or only one for all of them. Renegade the UI could become damaged to represent the chapter situation.

Duke, have you ever considered some kind of Adventure mode for Chapter Master? Making the player be able to play as a single unit?

Also, here is some suggestions/bugs

-Better AI for chapter ships
-Fix the bug where when the chapter ships moves they stop shooting
-When attacking there is a possibility of the vehicles and dreadnoughts to be multiplied by 2 on that battle
-Imperial guardsman needs to get buffed
-Orks ships not appearing in orbit of a planet after a ork fleet left it
-Ork ships still being made extremely faster after the Warboss death
-Master crafted eviscerator have no stats
-Being able to be a psyker chapter master in a psyker intolerant chapter(select psyker cm, select psyker intolerant and the psyker cm box won't be unselected)
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1737 on: July 10, 2015, 12:55:28 am »

Is psyker CM in a psyker intolerant chapter really a bug though? I could see that being crafted into the chapter story as How There Can Be Only One or something?
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1738 on: July 10, 2015, 01:38:26 am »

Is it intentional for loyalty to decrease constantly for _____ reason here or is that a bug? You'd think it'd reduce your loyalty by X for one time, but NOPE. how2loyalty.jpg

Loyalty doesn't decrease for no reason. Maybe you were not paying the tithe? But I have never seen loyalty go down for no reason.




Perhaps, but it's happened around 9-10 times since i last played it. Either i'm missing something important, or i just have a particular problem.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1739 on: July 10, 2015, 07:52:01 am »

Is psyker CM in a psyker intolerant chapter really a bug though? I could see that being crafted into the chapter story as How There Can Be Only One or something?
I'm not so sharp on WH40k lore, but aren't chapter masters promoted from within? How'd he get to be a Psyker in the first place? (or, if he defated the other Psyker Master in glorious mortal combat when he joined, who was in charge all these years?)
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