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Author Topic: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!  (Read 810434 times)

Firetrout

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1470 on: May 10, 2015, 11:05:16 am »

I myself thought that the way raids and assaults reduce enemy forces seems backwards. How are you reducing Enemy forces by 2 if you kill so far less than them.
It also makes Assault worthless for anything except purposefully gaining more XP. Sorta like a hard mode version.

Assault is when you bring vehicles. Raid just puts you in melee range with no vehicles. You're still killing the same number of troops in both.
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Puzzlemaker

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« Reply #1471 on: May 10, 2015, 11:14:53 am »

I myself thought that the way raids and assaults reduce enemy forces seems backwards. How are you reducing Enemy forces by 2 if you kill so far less than them.
It also makes Assault worthless for anything except purposefully gaining more XP. Sorta like a hard mode version.

Assault is when you bring vehicles. Raid just puts you in melee range with no vehicles. You're still killing the same number of troops in both.

Nope raid reduces enemy count more.
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Firetrout

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1472 on: May 10, 2015, 11:18:38 am »

I myself thought that the way raids and assaults reduce enemy forces seems backwards. How are you reducing Enemy forces by 2 if you kill so far less than them.
It also makes Assault worthless for anything except purposefully gaining more XP. Sorta like a hard mode version.

Assault is when you bring vehicles. Raid just puts you in melee range with no vehicles. You're still killing the same number of troops in both.

Nope raid reduces enemy count more.

I never said anything about enemy count, the enemy count drop is different, but the actual amount your marines are going up against are the same.
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Puzzlemaker

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« Reply #1473 on: May 10, 2015, 12:33:12 pm »

I myself thought that the way raids and assaults reduce enemy forces seems backwards. How are you reducing Enemy forces by 2 if you kill so far less than them.
It also makes Assault worthless for anything except purposefully gaining more XP. Sorta like a hard mode version.

Assault is when you bring vehicles. Raid just puts you in melee range with no vehicles. You're still killing the same number of troops in both.

Nope raid reduces enemy count more.

I never said anything about enemy count, the enemy count drop is different, but the actual amount your marines are going up against are the same.

Ah, I see.  Well, in any case, Raid should let you face fewer enemies but have less of an impact on enemy count, while attack/landing should be merged together and have you face more enemies, with more of an impact.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1474 on: May 10, 2015, 12:41:39 pm »

While there might be the same number of enemies, the composition certainly differs. I can send a small force on a raid against 'heavy' Tyranid forces and consistently win with no losses, but attacking the same Tyranid strength always ends up in losses(up to a complete defeat, iirc).
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Puzzlemaker

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« Reply #1475 on: May 10, 2015, 01:17:46 pm »

Yeah, I thought so.  It's wonky for sure.

In other news, do you have to manually buy equipment for promotions, or is it purchased automatically?

Also, why does it only let you promote as certain types of guys into certain companies when you have equal specialist distribution?  AKA, it only lets me promote scouts as assault marines into 7th company, while 8th is devastators, etc (Or something like that).  Is it a bug?
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Ivan Issaccs

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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1476 on: May 10, 2015, 02:06:47 pm »

Lore wise scouts are promoted to the ninth company and then the eighth after proving themselves in each.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1477 on: May 10, 2015, 02:27:45 pm »

Raiding also puts you right against the enemy front lines at the start of the battle which, depending on the foe, may be a good or a terrible idea.
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« Reply #1478 on: May 10, 2015, 08:09:49 pm »

Is there any way to organize your guys into squads so you can move them around easier, or are you stick moving individual marines?
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1479 on: May 10, 2015, 11:04:51 pm »

I myself thought that the way raids and assaults reduce enemy forces seems backwards. How are you reducing Enemy forces by 2 if you kill so far less than them.
It also makes Assault worthless for anything except purposefully gaining more XP. Sorta like a hard mode version.

Assault is when you bring vehicles. Raid just puts you in melee range with no vehicles. You're still killing the same number of troops in both.
That's not true. Raid puts you against an enemy that's one point of strength below the actual strength.
If you assault a "heavy" ork army it's 3500 orks. If you raid them it's 1000.
If you assault a "moderate" ork army it's 1000 orks. If you raid them it's 350.
If you assault a "sparse" ork army it's 350 orks. If you raid them it's 100.
etc.

Is there any way to organize your guys into squads so you can move them around easier, or are you stick moving individual marines?
You can click on the colours on the left. It's always in 10s
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« Reply #1480 on: May 10, 2015, 11:16:54 pm »

Whatever it does, Raid kills 'em faster, and that's vital against Orks and sometimes Tyranids. I can clean a planet in half as many turns with Raid as I can Attack.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1481 on: May 10, 2015, 11:35:56 pm »

Only problem is when they get really heavy, Raiding will ruin you.

And even attacking will be dangerous...
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1482 on: May 11, 2015, 01:07:30 am »

That is when you nuke them from the orbit. Collateral damage schmadage.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1483 on: May 11, 2015, 02:04:22 am »

That is when you nuke them from the orbit. Collateral damage schmadage.

I think I'd be more inclined to do that if I trusted the Disposition stated on the planet view, but it still seems buggy.
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Re: Chapter Master - In the name of the Emperor!
« Reply #1484 on: May 11, 2015, 03:11:15 am »

Real men are guards...

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